Undead Ban
#1
A. Why did he get banned? He just stated his opinion
B. Why was he banned for 2 years?

The community wants answers
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#2
just logged in to say lol

love you aussies bro :3
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#3
So in all fairness you are banning demonwolf too?
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(14 Dec 13, 12:30PM)Xenon Wrote: A. Why did he get banned? He just stated his opinion
B. Why was he banned for 2 years?

The community wants answers

do you mean: "among all the reasons, which one in particular ?"
just checked and he got about 20 warnings
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#5
why did he get warning points on the gold league match thread
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#6
2 years without undead..... Wow
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#7
Incoming oNe brigade
(I'm guessing he got 2 years because he has been banned so many times before)
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#8
Yeah, I saw this ban shortly after it was placed and thought it was unjust. Maybe a week or something but two years is absolutely ridiculous.
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#9
Two years is lame, he makes the forum more interesting.
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#10
what, he pissed you only 20 times ?
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#11
I don't know what caused undead to be banned this time, but there was (almost ?) a consensus to perma ban him next time he would behave like an idiot on the forums.

if you want to make a statement about undead and his ban, i'd say, don't look at what he just did, but everything harmful he did around and wonder yourself why he was still allowed to come here.

(although i have to admit his behavior significantly improved these last months to my kowledge;..)
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#12
Please keep the ban. This guy is a major asshole. Why would you want someone on a forum who insults and calls people autistic left and right?
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#13
He was only trying to defend himself... with his new user title...
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#14
What Undead did can be seen as pretty offensive. He's been a nuisance for awhile apparently. Calling people autists (when its true? still confused about that one) and spastics (with the intent of adding 'colon' I'd hope) without provocation (usually there is provocation). Two years for a mild indiscretion, and a community that gladly makes a villain out of anybody. There are plenty of people that have had plenty of douche moments. Usually I just remind myself that it's the internet and shit is going to get said. If you don't have a thick skin, don't bother coming about. #freeundead or #banwaffles
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phantom
he is simply stating truth, demonwolf even admits hes autistic lol
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#16
He's lucky to be not permaban like others guys kkk (irony)!
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(14 Dec 13, 06:05PM)Waffles Wrote: it's the internet and shit is going to get said. If you don't have a thick skin, don't bother coming about.

+ 100000000000000000
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#18
Let me refine my statement.

Some abrasive things are going to be said by the nature of ego and argument. If we punish people for these things without good reason, we are teaching some people that they have the ability to simply lash out for no reason, and expect someone else to deal 'justice' for them. In undead's specific case, he said true statements that were taken poorly (i used to hate undead btw). When he was equally attacked by others ("undead psychopath #1 for example") there was no retribution for those actions. If the goal is to have a sanctum, 'justice' should be delivered evenly, lest we educate some people that they can do what they want without rebuke, and give them a false sense of entitlement. Demonwolf and some BoB members, simply because undead is a popular target, are going to learn that they will be 'safe' from undead's jibs (and can attack him without fear of reprimand) and also that as long as they have friends in high places, that they are protected. My proposition is let these people learn that there is no such place as a safe haven, and let them come to grips with fighting their own battles. I understand this is not a democracy, but 1cap has started to make a lot more sense here recently.
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#19
Have to said that Waffles is right.
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#20
This is like, the most lenient dev team ever.
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#21
Waffle,s your statement is biased for the reasons i gave above. you're omitting everything that undead may have done in the past, while the moderators had agreed upon banning him permanently next time he would do something that deserves a sanction.
You're focusing on 2 recent events, which are clearly not the only reasons here: but undead has been avoiding such a ban for years, always flirting with the limits.

Also, it is not a matter of having friends in "high place". There is no high place, and if you're refering to the moderators - who have restricted powers anyway, it's just a forum - well they are NOT particularly bob friends. However many of them have tense (or terrible) relationships with undead and most often undead is to blame. so, he got what he has been looking for all this time, i'd say.

EDIT: lmao, fixed that bob friends part
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#22
what has undead done in the past
pls list them
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#23
EDIT: nvm i saw why

#FreeWaffles
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(14 Dec 13, 12:30PM)Xenon Wrote: A. Why did he get banned? He just stated his opinion
B. Why was he banned for 2 years?

The community wants answers

Attacking another forum user through his usertitle

Because he is a cunt and should be perma-banned.

(14 Dec 13, 01:21PM)[email protected] Wrote: do you mean: "among all the reasons, which one in particular ?"
just checked and he got about 20 warnings

Exactly. He has had his chances.

(14 Dec 13, 03:25PM)Orynge Wrote: Incoming oNe brigade
(I'm guessing he got 2 years because he has been banned so many times before)

Exactly.

(14 Dec 13, 03:40PM)Vanquish Wrote: Yeah, I saw this ban shortly after it was placed and thought it was unjust. Maybe a week or something but two years is absolutely ridiculous.

Standard unban was ~1-3 months, I decided to bump it up as that obviously wasn't working.

(14 Dec 13, 05:57PM)macm Wrote: He was only trying to defend himself... with his new user title...

No, that wasn't defense, that was an attack.

(14 Dec 13, 07:44PM)Xenon Wrote: what has undead done in the past
pls list them

Lets go through his warning log:
http://forum.cubers.net/post-130314.html#pid130314
http://forum.cubers.net/post-107621.html#pid107621
http://forum.cubers.net/post-105250.html#pid105250
http://forum.cubers.net/post-101167.html#pid101167
http://forum.cubers.net/post-94577.html#pid94577
http://forum.cubers.net/post-61159.html#pid61159
http://forum.cubers.net/post-60696.html#pid60696
http://forum.cubers.net/post-60270.html#pid60270
http://forum.cubers.net/post-32036.html#pid32036
http://forum.cubers.net/post-30472.html#pid30472
http://forum.cubers.net/post-23649.html#pid23649
http://forum.cubers.net/post-6329.html#pid6329
http://forum.cubers.net/post-6067.html#pid6067

Now, this is just a selection. Some of his warnings in his warning log didn't have anything attached. And these posts may be edited, I don't know. You must also remember that his "indiscretions" included hacking into another persons computer (even though the victim was hacking, is not an alright action):
http://forum.cubers.net/thread-2716-post...l#pid46380

He has had more than enough times to prove himself.

Just think of this like breaking the law. If you break it enough times, the punishment will be bumped up to the next level. Undead has bumped it up quite a few times now.

Waffles, sorry to ban you, I <3 you and everything. I just want you to see how much I feel about this.

(14 Dec 13, 12:45PM)pweaks Wrote: So in all fairness you are banning demonwolf too?

Next time report the offensive posts. I will be fair, and not favor my clanmates. I got a report that led to the banning via PM, I didn't read any of the material as it was going on. I read the report, validified the information, and then banned.
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(14 Dec 13, 12:45PM)pweaks Wrote: So in all fairness you are banning demonwolf too?

Please enlighten me what I have done wrong in order to deserve a ban. If I recall correctly, I've done nothing at all.


#KeepUndeadChained

(14 Dec 13, 06:09PM)Xenon Wrote: demonwolf even admits hes autistic lol

I said I'm aspergers. Doesn't mean you have to be a douche and poke fun at it (like DeathCrew).
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#26
(14 Dec 13, 08:42PM)D3M0NW0LF Wrote: Please enlighten me what I have done wrong in order to deserve a ban. If I recall correctly, I've done nothing at all.
You accused Undead being a psychopath.
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(14 Dec 13, 10:10PM)pweaks Wrote:
(14 Dec 13, 08:42PM)D3M0NW0LF Wrote: Please enlighten me what I have done wrong in order to deserve a ban. If I recall correctly, I've done nothing at all.
You accused Undead being a psychopath.

there's a large difference between throwing names and actually belittling and calling out people because of their differences.

here's an example: i call someone an asshole. that person is most likely not a physical asshole. i am cursing him because of the shittiness he has bestowed unto me and/or others.

on the other hand: undead calls demonwolf autistic because he actually is and through this, undead is implying that to be autistic is to be a lesser person. it's like calling someone a n****r and implying that because they are actually black, they are a lesser form of person. undead may not have known of demonwolf's condition the first time around but he was told on several occasions and instead of apologizing for his disregard for others, he continued to bestow his shittiness.

undead was funny at times. He had some genuinely good opinions. He has given a lot to the game in terms of maps/ideas etc. But he can also be a cunt (of course, he's not a physcial cunt but he acts like one) and it is evident, through RR's list of warnings, that he has been a cunt the majority of the time.

Waffles expresses that this is not a democracy, and like many people i wish it could be one. but undead's lack of self control clearly shows that some people aren't ready to show that they can control themselves without the help of the DEV and mods.
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(14 Dec 13, 04:01PM)Flames Wrote: Two years is lame, he makes the forum more interesting.
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#29
If the moderators policy is what is shown in Undead's warning log, there should be no reason not to ban demonwolf.
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#30
Undead is an idiot sometimes but most of those links are just stupid reasons. Most of them is just him calling someone a fucking idiot but it is ok for a Moderator like Ronald_Reagan to call someone a cunt. He actually served time for those links. Its like the court system in the United States, once you are tried for something and you server your time, you cannot serve any time after that for that specific crime. Undead should not be banned for crimes that he already got banned for. I would give him 6 months top.
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