天佑香港/God Protect Hong Kong

[Marti]

Also:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%88%86%...5%E5%88%86

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[Mousikos]

Also:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%88%86%...5%E5%88%86

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Er. Google 分久必合,合久必分. It's a line from 三國演義. In English, it could be translated as "That which has been separated for a time must reunite, and that which has been united for a time must separate."

[YesWeCamp]

http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A4%AA%E...8%E9%81%8B

Another reason this kind of scares me is, Hong Kong->Taiwan->Mongolia （外蒙古）-> other parts of Asia =S

LOL the dominotheory is still alive in the USA I see.

That's not it. China claims quite a bit of other countries as part of itself: http://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2012...irs-anger/


Also:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%88%86%...5%E5%88%86

Just like USA does ideologically, and Russia...

[Mousikos]

http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A4%AA%E...8%E9%81%8B

Another reason this kind of scares me is, Hong Kong->Taiwan->Mongolia （外蒙古）-> other parts of Asia =S

LOL the dominotheory is still alive in the USA I see.

That's not it. China claims quite a bit of other countries as part of itself: http://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2012...irs-anger/


Also:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%88%86%...5%E5%88%86

Just like USA does ideologically, and Russia...

USA is different. I'm not sure how to explain it.

[YesWeCamp]

USA is different. I'm not sure how to explain it.

Different because your ideology matches maybe?

[Nightmare]

Protesters pulling back? Is this ending?

[Mousikos]

USA is different. I'm not sure how to explain it.

Different because your ideology matches maybe?

With which ideology? USA? Nah.

[Marti]

USA is different. I'm not sure how to explain it.

Different because your ideology matches maybe?

Dont be smart pls, u r belgian, u not supposed 2 be smart

[Mousikos]

@YWC: Sorry, I don't know how to explain properly. 身為台灣人,我是以中華民國(簡稱為中國)為主.首先,我認為中華人民共和國(簡稱為中共),已經把我們國家搞的特別糟糕.中華民國不是一個民主的國家嗎？為什麼中國要來打亂我們國家?雖然我是華僑,但是我覺得我們可能要進入近代的三國戰了. 好啦,我承認.中國與中共的地盤規劃應該是一樣的.但是我覺得如果中國勝過中共的話,這會有所改變.可是無論如何,中國還是要與其他國家打好關係吧.中(共)韓兩國可能是亞洲最恨的兩個國家.不改善不行.

美國卻不一樣.首先,美國的歷史短暫.美國就是想去佔領其他國家.影響其他國家的規劃等.各國的挑戰應該是各國的挑戰吧.中共也如此認為.但是話說回來,他們認為台灣,內蒙,香港,等也都是中國的一部分.所以中共怎麼樣也關我們的事.問題在於我們根本不支持中共政府.我們想跟他們分離.請問中共的問題關美國啥屁事？

[Marti]

@YWC: Sorry, I don't know how to explain properly. 身為台灣人,我是以中華民國(簡稱為中國)為主.首先,我認為中華人民共和國(簡稱為中共),已經把我們國家搞的特別糟糕.中華民國不是一個民主的國家嗎？為什麼中國要來打亂我們國家?雖然我是華僑,但是我覺得我們可能要進入近代的三國戰了. 好啦,我承認.中國與中共的地盤規劃應該是一樣的.但是我覺得如果中國勝過中共的話,這會有所改變.可是無論如何,中國還是要與其他國家打好關係吧.中(共)韓兩國可能是亞洲最恨的兩個國家.不改善不行.

美國卻不一樣.首先,美國的歷史短暫.美國就是想去佔領其他國家.影響其他國家的規劃等.各國的挑戰應該是各國的挑戰吧.中共也如此認為.但是話說回來,他們認為台灣,內蒙,香港,等也都是中國的一部分.所以中共怎麼樣也關我們的事.問題在於我們根本不支持中共政府.我們想跟他們分離.請問中共的問題關美國啥屁事？

sorry, people dont know how to translate this properly lol

[ExodusS]

Not sure if it's the same thing I heard of, but I read the leaders of this revolution are mostly sons of important business men = financed by USA to destabilize another government

Source?

It was a Facebook group which I can't find atm, but I read it more than twice.

@ Exo: no "pseudo-revolution crysis experience" is needed to understand that China, along with India, is trying to bend over USA by making deals with Russia = a destabilized government would be indeed damaged for this way.

Do you need a picture to figure it out?

I think I wasn't clear enough in what I said. The word "pseudo" was destinated to the word "revolution" or even "crysis" but not about your knowledge or your experience.

In fact, all I wanted to say is that, you certainly know as me, all those happening actions like in China, India or even past actions that relate more countries (in apparence) like in Libia, Syria etc have way deeper issues than what many (most?) people think about it, and one of those deep issues are the one you mentioned.

All recent wars destabilized the governments and fucked up things way more than before the military actions.

[Andrez]

Ah, sorry for my misunderstanding then. Yeah, the fact is that people ignore the fact that most mass-media information is manipulated by governments, and are ready to believe to every bullshit, "because TV and newspapers say so".

A real example is Mediaset, an Italian network which was founded by the (in)famous Silvio Berlusconi. No need to say he's still in politics although he should spend at least ten years in jail for about 30 fellonies accusations (2/3 of which were dropped off). I don't expect CNN or BBC is going to tell you the truth about CIA, Obama, or USA administration, but that's it.

[Nightmare]

Welcome to the Save Hong Kong conspiracy theory thread.

[Marti]

http://www.ntd.tv/en/news/20141006/23032...viral.html

[Mousikos]

http://www.ntd.tv/en/news/20141006/23032...viral.html

Meh these things are kind of stupid. I mean I have a friend who met her boyfriend at protests in Taiwan.... It detracts away from the protest.

[Orynge]

There won't be any domino effect. You can't say that China will start invading other states just because they are trying to take complete control of a region within their borders. China are dealing with internal stuff mostly (like attempting to develop economies in Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia and Tibet so they are less likely to want to become seperate (of course they are also flooding these places with Han Chinese that won't want to seperate, changing the public opinion), the HK stuff, and then they have other stuff like enivironmental degradation and desertification which they have only recently started to try an deal with). The only external stuff going on is with minor territorial disputes (which they likely won't take much action over, due to economic interdependence) and Taiwan, which China views as part of China anyway.

[Mousikos]

There won't be any domino effect. You can't say that China will start invading other states just because they are trying to take complete control of a region within their borders. China are dealing with internal stuff mostly (like attempting to develop economies in Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia and Tibet so they are less likely to want to become seperate (of course they are also flooding these places with Han Chinese that won't want to seperate, changing the public opinion), the HK stuff, and then they have other stuff like enivironmental degradation and desertification which they have only recently started to try an deal with). The only external stuff going on is with minor territorial disputes (which they likely won't take much action over, due to economic interdependence) and Taiwan, which China views as part of China anyway.

That's not true. They have disputes with the phillipines, japan, taiwan, and i think vietnam too.

[Marti]

japan? lol

[Mousikos]

japan? lol

釣魚台
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkaku_Islands

[Marti]

But they will not go to war with japan i guess

[Mousikos]

But they will not go to war with japan i guess

There is anti-Japanese hate in China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

[Marti]

I know, but i think the government isnt that stupid

[Nightmare]

China starting things with Japan would cause WW3.

Keep the peace, and keep making Nikes for us pl0x.

[Mousikos]

keep making Nikes for us pl0x.

Stop troll.

Also, meh. China is just "reclaiming its own territory"

[Marti]

keep making Nikes for us pl0x.

Stop troll.

Also, meh. China is just "reclaiming its own territory"

they do know China started as a very little 'country' (you cant really call it a country) right? :P

[Nightmare]

Nikes

Stop troll.

Employs Chinese
Gives awesome sneakers to the world.
Boosts global economy

>

War

[Orynge]

China is just "reclaiming its own territory"

Exactly, they won't go to war against the entirety of Asia. As much as it doesn't seem like it, China try to be nice and cuddly rather than painful to everyone around the world. Ever heard of Panda diplomacy? They put maintainance of their borders and territory above the appearing cuddly and squishy rule, though there haven't been any violent actions over any of these iirc. Both states just fly planes over the disputed territory and yell at each other. Also, they are economically interdependent on some of these countries. Japan, South Korea and Taiwan are all worth billions upon billions of dollars to China, making up over a quarter of imports and exports, and according to IMF, China's economy is worth over $17 trillion. You can't just attack those nations helping supply that.

[Cemer]

china will not go to war with japan over senkaku in the next 10 years

they havent even annexed north korea, most evidently (other than the influx of economically and fiscally useless refugees) because that means they share a border with an american ally

[Andrez]

China starting things with Japan would cause WW3.

Keep the peace, and keep making Nikes for us pl0x.

I think Japan-China would be like only the tenth reason for WW3. There are so many unresolved territory issues in the world that could cause WW3 at any moment, that Japan-China would look like a neighbourhood quarrel.

[ExodusS]

I think Japan-China would be like only the tenth reason for WW3. There are so many unresolved territory issues in the world that could cause WW3 at any moment, that Japan-China would look like a neighbourhood quarrel.

This. Israel's government creates ten times more troubles than anything else IMO.