Open letter to Staff

[monster010]

"Dear" Staff,

I played assaultcube years ago, it has been a big part of my youth, but I think it's a pity what happened to this game. For me, a point has now reached where I have to get rid of my opinion.

Before anyone wonders who I am, my in-game name was MasterTT, also known as ~[CeW]~MasterTT or ~[CEA]~MasterTT. I also had other names, but listing them all would take too long.

Assault Cube has started as a great game and is now just a joke. I've been looking for a few posts from the forum, will quote them and respond to it.

My solution: have servers that have "bad" maps (like twintowers, camper but NOT simple edits of them) and servers that only allow official/"good" maps (like ac_village etc.)

What do you guys think?

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Sniper@camper
EzJemVill 
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Headshot-City(NEWYORK)!
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And I  hope you didn't get triggered!

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I have gone back and forth for some time over the idea of restricting map choices in order to preserve the overall experience in our servers, and I decided I wanted to get some community feedback regarding this.

While I really like the idea of people having the right to freedom of choice, I know there are a lot of maps of questionable quality that get voted mid-game quite frequently.

Often these maps are passed to the dismay of many experienced players.

In light of this, I did some preliminary work to create a list of maps that seem to be revered by many players, and yet cause revulsion for many more.
The proposed list isn't yet used, and may not get used at all. But I figure I will share it here for server owners who may decide this is a good choice for their use, in any case.

Whether or not it is ever used, I wanted to invoke opinions from the community here to get a better feel for the potential response to additions to our map blacklist.

In times of old staff there appeared some "crappy" (bad quality) maps, like EzjemVille etc. Crappy maps were played by some, the same part of players, which played almost the whole time the same a few maps. So crappy maps competed with good quality maps and started to dominate over them. This situation annoyed old valuable players, which stopped to play AC and new players didn't come, because AC wasn't already attractive.

So old devs took a decision, that servers with crappy maps in maprot should be banned in master server. In short time that brought quick growth of players amount, what was caused by increase of playing good quality maps.

Later this practise was abandoned by newer staff, what among other things caused considerable decrease of players amount to current state. So high time to return to old, proven practice and ban servers with crappy maps in maprot. That needed rules change, what happened.

Related threads/posts:
http://forum.cubers.net/thread-3276-post...l#pid57004
http://forum.cubers.net/thread-3181.html

The problem is especially with these servers, which have up to several maps in maprot, where big part of them are "crappy" maps - such servers for sure will be banned. List of forbidden bad quality maps in maprot and servers threatened by banning is given in the first post - if their maprot won't be changed, they will be banned in master server.
Note: list of forbidden maps can be updated.

Bad maps?!
There are no bad maps, every player has the possibility to join server, if on the server a (for him) bad map is running, then he should leave the server. Most of the maps marked as bad maps have been the most popular maps of the game. At the time these maps were still allowed to play, Assault Cube had a lot more players. I recently looked into Assault Cube and found out that there were about 40 players who gambled and that almost exclusively ac_ Maps are played. To quote someone:

You had it and you destroyed it. A shame. If you could not do it right then you did not have to get into it.



The king's "friends" have never done a good job ... It's the main reason for the lack of new players ... for sure ...

You've banned maps that made the player play this game.

The old staff, as Grenadier said so nicely, knew the game and knew how to get players to play and recommend this game. The "new" or current staff do not have any plan of his work and build (in my opinion) only garbage and destroy this game more and more.

I believe I have made my point clear and I am sure that many of the old players are in line with my opinion.
I would be very happy if you steered the game back in the right direction, in the direction it went before you started to turn this game into a pile of garbage.

Best regards
monster010 aka MasterTT

[Delacroix]

Indeed, people choose to play on those servers with "low quality" maps, besides, we have the option to vote maps, if not change the playing one, vote the next...
Even though i believe that more map restrictions arent the solution at all, i can't really see where the current staff "build only garbage and destroy this game more and more". They didnt created hundreds of gameplay patches or anything like this, some of the recent forum threads are just like conspiracy theories. Basically what most of people here believe is that if the staff reverse all changes they've made, the game will grow again, now do you really believe that new players will just start playing because of the maps? Where are those players now, passing by the forum and closing the tab because the game is not fun due to problems that they dont even know? The same for the idea of more restrictions, what you guys really want ? New players or the old player base, because anything related with internal problems cannot affect what is outside when what is outside doesnt even know we exist.

[Masterhit]

Well, I hope everybody here can agree that 'Minecraft' themed maps should be... Not banned, But rather, Shunned.
I mean this whole 'are you agree with banning poor maps' thing kinda reminds me of that scene in Team America: World Police where all the members of F.A.G are bitching about how the world is going to shit, Especially the bit with Sean Penn talking about the chocolate rivers.

In fact, I think that this is the same 'F.A.G' mentality... These idiots are just reading the first mhsaleh post they see on General and going with it (Which is also how mhsaleh began), Jesus titty-f**king christ, We need more dicks!

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Another thing, (Sorry for post-boosting, But this does not fit in to what I just said)

Conspiracy Theory is as follows:
This might also just be a bunch of morons that simply cannot handle multiplayer so they learn with bots (I was that kind of noob at first) but they learn using the maps to their advantage... So they aren`t very 'adaptable' and therefore get angry when the are forced into a situation where they need to adapt to an unfamiliar map.
And AC bots don`t really like spawning into custom maps, So these players only can learn the Official maps, And can only play 'Well' on the Official/'Good'* maps.

*'Good' meaning 'Maps that are practically clones of the Official ones'

[RKTnoob]

I see it as a constructive vs. a deconstructive thing. If something is posing a challenge (a lot of players playing "bad" maps) I would advise not to deconstruct the challenge (ban the maps) but construct something to rise to the challenge (make something that attracts the players more than the "bad" maps).

Destroying things is not a good way to build something.

[mhsaleh]

As stef told in a long speech here on forum, they will close ac project if cube1 engine get dead ( I can't remember well but it was in SrPER$IAN thread ).
Bad map, Bad players ( cheat troll ... ) and .... won't be solved with this condition of dev team, they only make excuse and they say "maybe fix it 1 day", "maybe 1 day next ac come out" so it's clear d3v has no competency for a good ac maintenance... dev is proud of ms lol... take it down and don't waste money cause it won't change condition... with ms or without ms, players can play in peace, "blacklist" and "serverlist" are only benefits i can see ms gaves to ac while they are not really usefull.
If you are busy for real life, announce that you can't manage ac and free yourself and us.

[Boomhauer]

I vote F1 to close the master server and shut down AC. After 10 years of playing, I feel the last 3 have been the worse. And it's just been downhill since the big bs debate over weapons balance. It sucks now. We can't keep hackers out. At this point they just laugh and say stupid shit when you call them out on it. Plenty of "pro' players are actually just using the complex hacks that were developed a couple of years ago. They are just subtle enough to be hard to tell, and just good enough to make them look awesome. I'm sick of it. I'm going back to CounterStrike or Urban Terror, or something. This shit sucks.

[YesWeCamp]

Banning campermaps and GEMA maps was a mistake in my opinion. I enjoyed those maps too even if they were ridiculous. AC was about getting easy kills with your shotgun or camping behind an invisible wall. That's why many played it. I mean: what's better than downloading a game and being able to end with a great score in your first game ever. That's motivating! And after, they would rise from the depths of *SUPERcamperTowerTWINmap* and go play the fun stuff starting with ac_. Now they have no chance on ac_shine and get owned, so they leave probably.

[1Cap]

Banning campermaps and GEMA maps was a mistake in my opinion. I enjoyed those maps too even if they were ridiculous. AC was about getting easy kills with your shotgun or camping behind an invisible wall. That's why many played it. I mean: what's better than downloading a game and being able to end with a great score in your first game ever. That's motivating! And after, they would rise from the depths of *SUPERcamperTowerTWINmap* and go play the fun stuff starting with ac_. Now they have no chance on ac_shine and get owned, so they leave probably.

yes yes... well said... its my point... AC must bring fun... 
King's just removed 80% of AC fun. Removing nice maps and removing GEMA.
It was King mistake. We all know this... But King and his friends are so proud about they changes...

[YesWeCamp]

Well, I don't really want to play the blame game, everyone does what he thinks is best. I can understand the choices that have been made, but I just think those choices were wrong in the end.

[YesWeCamp]

yes yes... well said... its my point... AC must bring fun... 
King's just removed 80% of AC fun. Removing nice maps and removing GEMA.
It was King mistake. We all know this... But King and his friends are so proud about they changes...

1Cap my friend, you sound a bit bitter in your latest posts man. Don't let some maprestrictions get you down, there's still plenty of cool things to do in AC. Get out there and frag some asses.

[1Cap]

Maybe you're right YWC. I always try to make it clear that I do not want to be offensive or attack someone in a personal way. I'm talking strictly about the modifications made in the game. The path chosen for future versions of the game was wrong. This is a fact. There is no doubt about that. And now we are at this point.
There is also no doubt that you have to love this game to be connected to it for so long.
We are talking about an open letter to Stef (Staff), so we must to say that we know how much this programmer loves this game. He's been here for a long time. And he has worked hard for all of us for sure...
But i need to say...
Stef, bring to the community of players everything that is being done from modification to the next release. Yes, do not do it as it was done before. This game is not just for programmers. Not everyone knows or can install a test environment of the new version. Many want to help, but in different ways. You have the opportunity to improve this game with the help of the WHOLE community. Do not get caught up in the ideas of just others 3 or 4 "players" ...
The new login system is something radical and new. What do the players (community) think?
There is no practical sense in removing GEMA game mode ... for example ... does it exist?
Caso contrário fica parecendo que tu está fazendo um jogo para ti mesmo e para teus amigos jogarem.

Otherwise it seems that you are making a game for yourself and for your friends to play.
It seems like you just want to exercise your programmer skills. It seems that you do not care about those who do not follow your vision of how things should be done. Your vision of how to develop the new game relesae etc.
I'm wrong where?

[mhsaleh]

1- stef is busy for real life and he doesnt have enough time to waste it on AC or programming, please think before talk 1Cap.
2- There are few players still playing this, clam and play if you find decent mates and opponents.
3- Start your own facebook page 1Cap ( if you think it changes condition ... )

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4-It's open letter to staff, not stef ... it's other thread...

[vonunov]

I vote F1 to close the master server and shut down AC. After 10 years of playing, I feel the last 3 have been the worse. And it's just been downhill since the big bs debate over weapons balance. It sucks now. We can't keep hackers out. At this point they just laugh and say stupid shit when you call them out on it. Plenty of "pro' players are actually just using the complex hacks that were developed a couple of years ago. They are just subtle enough to be hard to tell, and just good enough to make them look awesome. I'm sick of it. I'm going back to CounterStrike or Urban Terror, or something. This shit sucks.

Boomhauer love you bro, hope I see you out there. Look me up on steam, I'll send you CSGO later if you need. Did you try Rocket League? It's also good for the fast-action fix.

[titiPT]

'member the good old days?

[RiJaKr]

srry

[kemoni221]

I understand every point you guys make in this thread, but still, I don't think there could be anything worse than closing the AC's master server. There still are active players like myself (and I play AC more oftenly than CS:GO), and they wouldn't want the game to get shut down.