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23 Sep 16, 10:30PM
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http://forum.cubers.net/thread-7199-post...#pid171626
(14 Sep 16, 05:00AM)Vinayill Wrote: Name : AS|.unknown
Date : 14-Sep-2016
Reason : Wall Hack
Server : [ESP] AC France
IP : 177.135.32.0/20
177.207.32.0/20
179.186.240.0/20
Demo/ Proof : https://www.mediafire.com/?ucgu4b8cf2suue4
No. I watched this demo. Absolutely nothing out of the ordinary.
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(23 Sep 16, 11:17PM)Marti Wrote: Blatant wh Dafuq you talking about? Someone else verify? I didn't see shit
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24 Sep 16, 11:14AM
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Watched the demo, didn't see many difficult predictions. One strange moment is how at 3:05 remaining he traces the last opponent move without seeing him, while he (the opponent) could've easily stayed in cover.
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I'm still wondering how he hits so many bullets no scope from such a long distance (considering his level which doesn't fit with someone who has been playing sniper for a long time)
@backontopic : I'd say wh, he fired bullets in several walls where he didn't have the vision + that 3:05 moment that gy_be pointed out
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Vinayill can explain why he is 101% sure about hax.
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If this is legit wallhack, it is not obvious...
Player connects @ 7 mr
OSOK on ac_douze
Here's my take on it:
4:38 seemed suspect, but plausible through sound and process of elimination.
3:42 seemed kind of suspect but, again, he could just be making predictions.
3:15 'dat no-scope...
3:05 didn't seem so suspect to me... I guess because he knows the guy is in the corner. I really thinks he gets lucky when he pulls right and then realizes he has moved down below and then changes his vantage point - rather than taking advantage of the shot.
It gets dicey around the platform as he misses multiple times aiming at the tower at 2:50 but again nothing obvious, since he realizes that is where the guy has to be.
At 2:30, where he tries to aim really specifically there seems a little suspect. And from then onward, it gets really shady.
2:22 He jumps down behind someone. If you have the sound adjusted you can hear the guy is there, but it isn't explainable otherwise, and looks suspect. Closer to being obvious, but still possible as a skilled move. Except that he completely misses the guy! Which makes me think even more that he caught the sound and thought he could surprise the guy down below. Or he just completely failed - even with wallhack.
2:15 He knows by now where the guy is and finally gets the shot after he jumps out from above.
2:03 Hardscoping the corner was fine but the confidence in the duration is what makes that suspect.
1:50-1:38 seems really suspect to me as he aims confidently in the first corner and then knows exactly where to go for the slash from above. This was very suspect, if not a very strategic and well executed move.
1:29 The aiming coming from around the corner seems really odd - but then he totally misses.
1:16 Awesome headshot trade.
He pretty much fails until he finally rage quits at 0:41 as his ratio dips below 2 - to an embarrassing 1.93!
If I have this right he finished with 4 Headshots, 3 Slashes, and 15 Frags to end with 29 Kills and 15 Deaths.
If I have the count right, he fired the Sniper Rifle with an accuracy 64.7% and he slashed successfully 18.7% of the time.
While these are not bad statistics at all, this does not seem like the evidence of an Obvious Cheat.
As much as I like it when MorganKell is happy, I am not sure this is such an easy case.
It is plausible that this is just a guy who has a very strong mastery of awareness on /osok ac_douze
Or he is a really bad wallhacker.
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tryhards .. remember http://forum.cubers.net/thread-8719.html
i also think if a player has high ping or lags in a game that it shows somehow a delay in a demo & maybe that's why it seems like he's walling (have seen this be4)
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25 Sep 16, 06:41AM
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Ha, I am sorry shimmies but you mistake my post. I played an inter against these fks and it was so much bullshit. When I get my ass kicked I know it, but this was ridiculous. I have a demo from the gothic we played. The cheat might not be wallcheat, but it's a cheat nonetheless.
I have a demo. I have instincts. I have experience. I have shimmy. When it comes down to it I've got nothing better to do than DC from the inter and go find a pub where the majority of people aren't cheats and one can get a decent vote against anyone that tries.
Seeing that blacklist entry just made me so happy. Whether it was recent or old it didn't matter. I just had to express.
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I don't know why the report makes you happy because based on this thread it may easily be invalid. If you have another demo then post it.
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01 Oct 16, 11:54PM
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It makes me happy because i always give someone the benefit of the doubt so I no matter how much BS I scream at the screen I leave it be until someone else goes ahead and calls it i.e. more a recognition of my own lack of cheat detection skill than anything else. If anyone here could show me how to post the demo, I would gladly do so.
MKeezy Edit :: FU UNKNOWN. I GOT DAT DEMO. Go FK yourself and take Arnold with you. POS.
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02 Oct 16, 01:28AM
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Just upload the demo somewhere like HERE
Then just post the File Link for it.
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02 Oct 16, 01:40AM
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(02 Oct 16, 01:40AM)MorganKell Wrote: Done https://dnc-game.space/kleeja/uploads/20...in-CTF.dmo
https://dnc-game.space/kleeja/uploads/20...in-CTF.dmo
Yeah they both look like Wallhack to me. unknown is pretty obvious. Anjo looks like he is trying to be more discrete but constantly going out of is way to walk up to walls for angles isn't very discrete either...
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there is a moment when I come up right behind one of them and they instantly turn and kill me. Can you tell me what that is besides wallhack? (wallhack is beatable imho) but what they did is ridiculous.
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If there is something else going on it is too discrete for me to tell. They don't snap-aim that often, so I can't say it is aimbot. Maybe someone else can take a closer look, I am getting tired tonight...
But I wouldn't underestimate the advantage that can be had from knowing where to aim before your enemy gets there.
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Fine than tell me who is unkown. Do it and give me the downlow because that is not the demo I sent.
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(02 Oct 16, 02:42AM)+f0r3v3r+ Wrote: If there is something else going on it is too discrete for me to tell. They don't snap-aim that often, so I can't say it is aimbot. Maybe someone else can take a closer look, I am getting tired tonight...
But I wouldn't underestimate the advantage that can be had from knowing where to aim before your enemy gets there.
Yeah, i've seen Minion done that before. Once again, i think it somehow has to do with the lag .. no idea how though. I think their screen differs from ours sometimes.
Atleast if Minion doesn't hack as well, which I doubt.
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02 Oct 16, 04:05AM
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@Grazy I have heard about what you are talking about but notice the damage is registered on the box in the demo, and these guys really didn't seem to have absurd lag like that... Also Anjo is the one who makes both kills, as unknown's shots don't register on the opposing players at all. That is just the plain fact he was aiming through the box. Now if someone deleted the boxes out of their models that is a different issue, also.
But it seems obvious to me that both of these guys put themselves unusual positions given the information they have assuming they aren't wallhacking. This isn't the sound whoring and awareness you see in really seasoned players, this is getting information visually and then taking angles and paths based on that information. I just took the capture I did because I thought it was really ridiculous.
@MorganKell That is from the demo you sent - watch from unknown's perspective @ 12:10
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02 Oct 16, 07:38AM
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(02 Oct 16, 04:05AM)+f0r3v3r+ Wrote: @Grazy I have heard about what you are talking about but notice the damage is registered on the box in the demo, and these guys really didn't seem to have absurd lag like that...
There is bug in AC in 1st POV, in demo mode - see that in 3rd POV, he didn't crouch, when shot.
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02 Oct 16, 07:22PM
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Soooo, called it?
Edit: where is our expert boomhauer?
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