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05 Dec 13, 11:00PM
(This post was last modified: 05 Dec 13, 11:06PM by Marti.)
Today,
A great man has passed away...
"I dream of an Africa which is in peace with itself."
R.I.P. Nelson Mandela
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25249520
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RIP.
Still surprised to hear it..
And can I smell a national holiday? He deserves it!
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(05 Dec 13, 11:00PM)Marti Wrote: R.I.P. Nelson Mandela
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One of the most influential men of our time. Sad to see him go.
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R.I.P. Mandy, world will miss you.
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He changed the way a country and a world thinks.
I think he is a true legend, and I hope future generations will revere him in the same ethos we have, and always will.
RIP, Madiba
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Today humanity has lost one of its most extraordinary children. Nelson Mandela, the hero of all those who strive for a society where skin color does not endear or devalue anyone.
Nelson Mandela was a hero who suffered for decades in prison but did not betray his people and his ideals. Nelson Mandela chose to go to jail even when liberty was offered him as a reward for treason.
When I was a teenager the struggle against apartheid in South Africa was the first international issue that mobilized me and since then I have Nelson Mandela with one of my great heroes.
Madiba, you never die! His leadership will be everlasting and you will live in every gesture, every word, in every struggle for a free humanity of racism and prejudice.
Nelson Mandela! Gift!
Nelson Mandela! Gift!
Nelson Mandela! Gift!
Today and Always!
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Sad to hear this but I'm glad his struggle with this stupid infection has now ended. RIP.
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(06 Dec 13, 03:39AM)Orynge Wrote: Sad to hear this but I'm glad his struggle with this stupid infection has now ended. RIP.
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I can't remember how many demonstrations I have attended asking for him to be freed... Singing out loud every time the jukebox played
Rest in peace my man, your spirit will remain forever.
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Rest In Peace Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela <<Madiba>>.
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24/7 tv and radio coverage here... All over the media.
Another pub holiday would be great - push the number of holidays up to 12.
R.I.P
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he was socialistic, communist and black, he stole money from white people and give them to black people, it is fucking spirit lol ... this man connected socialism with black racism and got the political points. So cheap. How he did it ? Through revolutions (communist ideology) and military actions. So peaceful. US is in bankruptcy thanks this black socialism.
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How is he a communist if he brought democracy to a nation?
(07 Dec 13, 07:31PM)Alien Wrote: communist and black
So it's ok to be a White communist?
And what's this bullshit about 'military action' when he was not even in control of the military.
1. Go to school
2. Stay in school
3. Drop the conspiracy shit
4. Eat a cupcake
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So we're now blaming the GFC on black people?
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i dont think socialism can work in multicultural society, look on gypsies ... Mendela destroyed apartheid which protect white people, and now families escape from SA, is this democracy ??
"When Mandela dies we will kill you whites like flies" - Mzukizi Gaba (ANC)
@about black and their economical skills, you are right GFC isnt masterpiece of black people, it is problem of the whole system
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archi...-your-head
i dont want to be racist, racism with any idealogy doesnt work, for example nazism, connection of nationalism + racism + socialism
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08 Dec 13, 04:10AM
(This post was last modified: 08 Dec 13, 04:11AM by #M|A#Wolf.)
Please inform yourself Alien with objective information about Mandela's life endeavors before dropping shit right on his RIP thread for god's sake. You have so many fallacies and illogical points in your arguments, and certain ambiguities in your language that I just rather not take my time arguing with you.
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(08 Dec 13, 02:34AM)Alien Wrote: ... I was going to address your post, but I came to the same conclusion as Wolf. I can't actually see one coherent argument in your posts. Nelson Mandela accomplished an awful lot in regards to racial equality and all you're doing is running your mouth while the world mourns. Show some respect.
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Alien.
Yes, much of what you said is correct.
Nelson, Christian name, brings the message that we are all equal.
This and only this is what I agree and pay tribute.
But ...
A mixture of wild capitalism, blind religion and hidden communism invaded the country after Nelson assuming the presidency.
Feminism and male chauvinism are almost the same.
It's a long conversation but in S. Africa the things are not as they should.
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(07 Dec 13, 07:31PM)Alien Wrote: US is in bankruptcy thanks this black socialism.
lol
no
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08 Dec 13, 07:45PM
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(07 Dec 13, 07:31PM)Alien Wrote: he was socialistic, communist and black, he stole money from white people and give them to black people, it is fucking spirit lol ... this man connected socialism with black racism and got the political points. So cheap. How he did it ? Through revolutions (communist ideology) and military actions. So peaceful. US is in bankruptcy thanks this black socialism. you're going to be disappointed, but these (the parts in bold) are actually some of the reasons why i admire mandela, so i'm glad you brought them here.
sometimes you just can't change things without strong revolutions.
especially when different social classes are opposed.
the belief that you can "balance" conflicting classes without any violence when one of them is dominating is wrong.
the rest of your post is not far better
US in bankruptcy because of "black socialism" ? blame the liberal measures that have been taken since 1980 instead. How can you consider the US as a socialist country...
socialism is completely compatible with a multi cultural society.
actually i'd say that uncontrolled capitalism would be the issue. if your system is too liberal, everything that is not efficient when it comes to make money will die by itself. (e.g. cultural practices). everything gets ruled by the power of capitalism and then there tends to be one culture, the culture of money.
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I think Mandela tried for racial equality but the angry black, majority populace did not agree with that.
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Who does not protect yourself is crazy.
Some considerations:
Not a model of perfect society exists.
Capitalism has eaten other social systems.
Communism did not work.
The basis of a society is to control it yourself.
Society = control.
Capitalism is stronger than racism.
--- We should honor those who defend life.
Mandela was assimilated by the international system.
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09 Dec 13, 07:45AM
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(08 Dec 13, 02:34AM)Alien Wrote: ...
btw, does the word 'apartheid' ring a bell to you? Had you been in his situation in these days what would you have done?
His 'military actions' were in a way legit against the kind of people he was facing.
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(08 Dec 13, 02:34AM)Alien Wrote: Mendela destroyed apartheid which protect white people, and now families escape from SA, is this democracy ??
Dude , wtf?
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