theft and fraud

[NarcotiK]

Hello everyone, I just tell you about a delicate subject, aka Edward | BG | sniper, [Hunt] sniper tag it usurps the teams, here's proof

So this person fraud and usurping the following tag | BG | and [Hunt] ... demand ban on that person



original poste here : http://xtrem-warriors.xooit.com/t949-Edw....htm#p5990


http://wiki.cubers.net/action/view/Team_Hunter

http://wiki.cubers.net/action/view/Best_Gibbers

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he play for 2 official clan is not légal ;)

[|B-G|Jerem[fr]]

this is not a fraud, I allowed this one to wear the tag |B-G| whenever he wanted

[NarcotiK]

he can not play for 2 clan official tells you ... in these cases I ask a woop to come play for the team. cS "| * Thoughtful one can

[ExodusS]

I must assume that [Hunt] and |B-G| are both official, so i must say that it should be considered as a "tag abuse" even if Jerem[Fr] allowed him to wear the |B-G| tag.

[NarcotiK]

thank you exodusS ;)

[|B-G|Jerem[fr]]

I think the admin hunt also give him the right to wear the tag of having the hunt and also bg

[Edward]

Hello I am Edward. I am also Known under Firelord's nick (TyD ladder few times ago) and |AOD|Edward (former clan with good friends) and Lapinou on Teamspeak.

I took the Hunt tag and the B-G during few match (yes it is true) but it was ALWAYS with the agreement of the leader. Why are you posting that? Are you a B-G member or a Hunt member? Ask |B-G|Jerem and [Hunt]Sprider who are leaders of |B-G| and [Hunt] if they allowed me to wear their tag. They will answer you YES. The most funny is that they were playing with me during those impersonation matches trololol. Do you think they are stupid and they just did not notice I was not one of their member?

As proof I am gonna post here ALL MATCHES I played under a tag who was not mine (existing one). I think there is no rules in AssaultCube which forbide a player to use a tag during only one match or one day. But I can be really stupid and I can apply for these two team if needed and my apply will be rejected for sure cause I still need to improve cause I am a noob.

TAG HUNT :
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/20111123.jpg
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/20111124.jpg
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/20111125.jpg

As you can see I was playing all matches with Hunt leader. Congratz sherlock

TAG B-G :
Match vs =AW= team and leader (Exoduss) perfectly know who I was. Does not matter for him.
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/ac_dep10.jpg
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/ac_des11.jpg
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/ac_ele10.jpg

As you can see I was playing all matches with B-G leader. Congratz sherlock

Inter :

http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/ac_dep11.jpg
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/ac_des12.jpg


As you can see I was playing all matches with B-G leader. Congratz sherlock

Now I will post a screen showing I was allowed to wear the B-G tag. For Hunt you can contact Sprider here even if I am sure noone will : http://team-hunter.keuf.net/

Here is the screen :
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/20120213.jpg

Translation is :
"Edward : |B-G|Jerem : was I allowed to wear your tag?
"|B-G|Jerem" : yes

French people will easily confirm this
Now if you read my post it is because you got many time to waste because it so stupid that I am wondering why I wasted 25 minutes (YES find and Upload screen took me a long time) to write this TL;DR shit.

Finnaly if you wanna know why Narcotik post this thread it is because he is an asshole (ban be if I deserve it but I really think that I am sorry I wont apology) and as proof he offend me (If "Edward your son of a bitch" is an offense) many times. He posted here because he think I was playing during the match B-G vs cS (I was not check IP) and he ragequit:
http://www.bg-ac.com/t1046-b-g-vs-cs
I remember that B-G was ban of the aG forum when they tried to apply (lack of skill some people said) and cS enter in without any problems. WTF nice behaviour. This topic is so useless I hope he will be deleted but I do not care I just tell AssaultCubers what I have to say.

Here is some funny screen of this lame guy but I dont ask anyone to BL him because I am here to play and I do not give a shit about lamers.
Enjoy<3
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/114.jpg
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/512.jpg
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/612.jpg
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/711.jpg
// saying Im a hacker me and my brother (my brother do not play anymore and Firelord and Edward are all me)

http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/115.jpg
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/214.jpg
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/313.jpg
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/412.jpg
http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/16/60/58/81/513.jpg
// Saying I am a noob as last screen show very well. Saying my clan is a noob clan. Insulting me.

I have got some other screen and demos of him but who cares about? If I post it here it is because I want all french community to know what kind of player you are and why you are a shame for cubers society. Some people in cS are really nice. Definitely your not.

Sorry for my English and this useless post (again)

PS : I played for Hunt in 2011 and for B-G in 2012. Not at the same time think about it. Comon prove me I am wrong

[NarcotiK]

what you did not not seem to understand is that this is the case I may ask one or a woop TYD to play for us ... I'm over that reminds you to cheat on version 1.0 so yes I can confirm I do not love you because you do not follow the rules that are set to know that you can not play for two different clan

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more so I have due respect it is because you speak evil of. cS "| * Lecoq who was your teammate AOD, and who Join. cS" | * bit of time after having had trouble with you

[GDM]

Clans in AssaultCube aren't *really* official in a strict sense. There are not, as far as I know, rules dictating the behavior of clans nor the application process or tag-wearing rules for clans.

It's all very informal.

If Edward isn't upsetting anyone whose tag he's wearing, it's none of our business. B-G and Hunt do not need you getting upset for them.

[NarcotiK]

more so I have due respect it is because you speak evil of. cS "| * Lecoq who was your teammate AOD, and who Join. cS" | * bit of time after having had trouble with you

ps : the screenshot was a pisa today-xW-Movez and not in 2011

[Edward]

I never played for two different clan at the same time sorry.

I wear the Hunt tag at : 2011.11.18 (I was a single player)
I wear the B-G tag at :
2012-02-02 (Still a single player)
2012-02-03 (Still a single player)

As I said before they test me but because of my poor skill they never accept me in their team. Ask them they will confirm kkk. But I can sometimes make another try :)

Screens can not lie sorry. Anyway who cares about? Is it a good reason to add me between hackers?

EDIT : lecoq never quit AOD because of me!! He quit because of inactivity !! The post is still on AOD forum but I will never post it without his permission. More over I got a problem with hm but It was because of a misunderstanding (little script with {USERNAME}) and it end well. I got post too !! Please do not lie. And I said cS were nice. Only you is bringing shame to cS.
Admin close or delete?

[NarcotiK]

I have more time to discuss this topic ... Now what will happen will happen ;) good night all

[OpenSource]

There are, as far as I know, not rules dictating the behavior of clans nor the application process or tag-wearing rules for clans.

Except clan rules.

And why any "serious" clan wanna let someone not in there clan use clan tag i dont get, but i guess thats there clan rules.

[Orynge]

Clans decide if they want double-clanners. Not anyone else.

[Edward]

Clans decide if they want double-clanners. Not anyone else.

PLease as I said before I have never been in two clan at the same time!! I took the Hunt tag in 2011 and B-G tag in 2012.

[Krayce]

Hello there !


First of all : AOD, B-G and Hunt are a official clan or just nothing ?


1) You imagine if any player do the same thing that you ?
Example : A player of MyS can play in w00p or a BoB player can play in MyS and others...
It's impossible even if the leaders of the clan agreed with you !

2) It's considered like a tag abuse if you use more than 1 official clan, and above if you play matches clan for them !
Do you imagine, if any player do the same thing that you ?
Example : A member of w00p, MyS, BoB or others... who play for B-G or Hunt !

3) If you want really help them..., make an application for them !


And for finish : You must choose between AOD / B-G / Hunt / or stay without clan...
Because you can't have 3 clans in same time even if the leaders of the clan accept you !
All clans have is own problems and they must resolve their mistake between them, not with a person who play for all criticals clans, It's not an excuse ! You don't help them like that (proof : we talk about the tag of B-G and Hunt in the blacklist), you can't make clones everytime !

Conclusion : It's illegal and you can be blacklisted !


PS : I know than you is a good guy and that you want just help clans, but you must choose your destiny first of all. So I hope you understand me, it's for you my message !


Take care man.

[Edward]

mmm I do not know why you answer here but no problem I can copy past my answer here too lol. Just strange to get the same conversation in two place :
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First of all : AOD, B-G and Hunt are a official clan or just nothing ?

B-G and Hunt are officials

1) You imagine if any player do the same thing that you ?
Example : A player of MyS can play in w00p or a BoB player can play in MyS and others...
It's impossible even if the leaders of the clan agreed with you !

They can not cause they are still in a clan and I was a single player in all of my matches. I took the Hunt tag in 2011 when I was alone and I took the B-G clan in 2012 when I was STILL ALONE.

2) It's considered like a tag abuse if you use more than 1 official clan, and above if you play matches clan for them !
Do you imagine, if any player do the same thing that you ?
Example : A member of w00p, MyS, BoB or others... who play for B-G or Hunt !

You have no idea about what is a tag abuse. It is using a tag which is not yours without the authorization of the owner. I got the authorization of both of them so ragers and lamers have nothing to say there is no tag abuse. And I never played in two clan at the same time. I have already post date on the official forum where the conversation really take place. Here is not the place.

3) If you want really help them..., make an application for them !

No because I am waiting for applying LC (maybe if I am enough skilled) and B-G and Hunt agreed on playing only few matches. They are friends and if I wanna play with them I do not have to ask your permission.

Conclusion : It's illegal and you can be blacklisted !

You should read answer on the official forum. I will post here the post of GDM with resume perfectly why those lame accusations are ridiculous :

Clans in AssaultCube aren't *really* official in a strict sense. There are not, as far as I know, rules dictating the behavior of clans nor the application process or tag-wearing rules for clans.

It's all very informal.

If Edward isn't upsetting anyone whose tag he's wearing, it's none of our business. B-G and Hunt do not need you getting upset for them.

[ExodusS]

[jamz]

I'm closing this one because I don't want a bitter argument over something that should never have been posted here. NarcotiK and KrAyC3, this is an issue between Edward, B-G clan and Hunt clan, not an issue for the AC community to rule on. If those clans don't mind Edward using their tags, why should you? Even if AC clans listed on the wiki could be classed as 'official', there are no rules in place to prevent players multi-clanning; those rules are down to the individual clans themselves.