AssaultCube 1.0.4 has DIED
#61
i think it's funny how people who have contributed very little to the game consistently complain about those who dedicate their time and money to make AC better
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(11 Nov 10, 08:34PM)MusicMan10 Wrote: i think it's funny how people who have contributed very little to the game consistently complain about those who dedicate their time and money to make AC better

Who are you talking about, more precisely? Me?
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#63
Drakas, young players will adapt and pro players had enough time for feedback, it looks terrible these discussions ....
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(11 Nov 10, 09:19PM)Alien Wrote: Drakas, young players will adapt and pro players had enough time for feedback, it looks terrible these discussions ....
There will never be such thing as a "pro player" in AssaultCube at this rate, to be honest.

(pro player - highly-skilled, plays for money, in things like competitions)
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#65
I really don't understand all this hateful, doom-monger reaction. I've been playing AC for quite some time and to me the weapons are a little whack in the latest version (and the developers are looking to address this) but the core of the game remains the same.

If anything I'd say I'm enjoying the game more because there seem to be less (no?) cheating scumbags, who don't deserve breatheable oxygen ruining it for everybody. The haxors were really starting to kill the game and take all the fun out of it.

Furthermore, this game is developed and offered freely so IMO we have very little right to b|tch and complain about it, and every reason to give thanks and praise to the developers. If everyone is so afraid of change then give up your oct-core CPU, 1 terrabyte RAM gaming rigs and get back to 386 DOS days. Progress people; learn it, live it!

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#66
I'd actually have liked to see some online prizemoney games in AC. Wouldn't have been to hard to do with paypal and stuff - and plenty of betting too...

I see the poll is open again. Dunno why, it was closed before.

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(11 Nov 10, 09:25PM)Darkbee Wrote: I really don't understand all this hateful, doom-monger reaction.
There's far more depth to this than you imagine.
Quote:If anything I'd say I'm enjoying the game more because there seem to be less (no?)
Nope, unless you don't count wallhacking as cheating.
Quote: cheating scumbags, who don't deserve breatheable oxygen ruining it for everybody.
Quote: The haxors were really starting to kill the game and take all the fun out of it.
Well, I proposed good solutions to it but they were ignored.. I don't need to be talented in programming to come up with a few non-superficial ideas.

Quote:Furthermore, this game is developed and offered freely so IMO we have very little right to b|tch and complain about it,
Yeah, but that's not the heart of the issue.
Quote:If everyone is so afraid of change then give up your oct-core CPU, 1 terrabyte RAM gaming rigs and get back to 386 DOS days.
Quote:Progress people; learn it, live it!
There's progress, there's stagnation and then there's devolution. Many of us see it as the latter.
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(11 Nov 10, 09:26PM)uniJ00$ Wrote: I'd actually have liked to see some online prizemoney games in AC.
And who'll sponsor that in a game that doesn't even have a stable community, and a calm relationship between the players and the developers? After all, look at who is dictating what every major clan should do? ;)
Quote:Wouldn't have been to hard to do with paypal and stuff - and plenty of betting too...
That'll probably not happen any time soon. You can't find many to sponsor HI-SKILL, who's going to sponsor competitions?
Quote:I see the poll is open again. Dunno why, it was closed before.
There's inconsistency in moderation still, a while after I complained.


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(11 Nov 10, 09:32PM)Drakas Wrote: There's far more depth to this than you imagine.

Then call a Spade, a Spade and don't say "The shotgun is overpowered, the game sucks, I want 1.x back". I'm not saying you're saying that, it's just what I see on the forums here. That kind of commentary implies that the slightest change to the game in inherently bad, and that there is no room for improvement. I understand the "don't mess with a good thing" mentality but I don't see that AC has been rendered utterly unplayable by these recent changes as some people would have us believe.

However, I do concede that I haven't read every single thread on this forum (I've only just started taking an interest in the AC forums), and I haven't been privy to the seemingly titanic struggle between the developers and the community. I don't know the background or history, and I can only comment on what I see, but what I see is pretty sad.

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(11 Nov 10, 09:52PM)Darkbee Wrote:
(11 Nov 10, 09:32PM)Drakas Wrote: There's far more depth to this than you imagine.

Then call a Spade, a Spade and don't say "The shotgun is overpowered, the game sucks, I want 1.x back". I'm not saying you're saying that, it's just what I see on the forums here. That kind of commentary implies that the slightest change to the game in inherently bad, and that there is no room for improvement. I understand the "don't mess with a good thing" mentality but I don't see that AC has been rendered utterly unplayable by these recent changes as some people would have us believe.

However, I do concede that I haven't read every single thread on this forum (I've only just started taking an interest in the AC forums), and I haven't been privy to the seemingly titanic struggle between the developers and the community. I don't know the background or history, and I can only comment on what I see, but what I see is pretty sad.
Well, I'm glad you acknowledge the fact that you don't know the history.

But it's even more sad for me than for you... Good times did exist. These things wouldn't be so sad if it was always like this, you know...
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#70
Be less arrogant, Drakas.
All your propositions of "how the anticheats should work" were accepted and implemented.
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#71
In a lame way
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#72
drakas,brahma...let's play a 1vs1 desert survivor and close this story between you 2 :)

peace 'n' frags guys :)
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#73
(11 Nov 10, 10:34PM)Monas|SK| Wrote: In a lame way

I feel any attempt to stop the prevalence of cheaters in AC is good. If you don't like it may I suggest you go code your own anti-cheat and submit it to the devs.

gl
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(11 Nov 10, 11:01PM)MusicMan10 Wrote:
(11 Nov 10, 10:34PM)Monas|SK| Wrote: In a lame way

I feel any attempt to stop the prevalence of cheaters in AC is good. If you don't like it may I suggest you go code your own anti-cheat and submit it to the devs.

gl

+ fk'n 1

See what I did there?
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#75
(11 Nov 10, 10:34PM)Monas|SK| Wrote: In a lame way

What is your problem, Monas?
Do you know what is implemented and what Drakas requested one year ago?
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#76
Ok, I have watched these sought of threads for weeks/months, and all I can see is flaming against other people and nothing being freaking done.


(11 Nov 10, 11:01PM)MusicMan10 Wrote:
(11 Nov 10, 10:34PM)Monas|SK| Wrote: In a lame way

I feel any attempt to stop the prevalence of cheaters in AC is good. If you don't like it may I suggest you go code your own anti-cheat and submit it to the devs.

gl

Agreed, I'd like to see anyone of you code and anti-cheat system.



(11 Nov 10, 10:34PM)Monas|SK| Wrote: In a lame way

Please explain what "In a lame way" means too you?



(11 Nov 10, 09:52PM)Darkbee Wrote:
(11 Nov 10, 09:32PM)Drakas Wrote: There's far more depth to this than you imagine.

Then call a Spade, a Spade and don't say "The shotgun is overpowered, the game sucks, I want 1.x back". I'm not saying you're saying that, it's just what I see on the forums here. That kind of commentary implies that the slightest change to the game in inherently bad, and that there is no room for improvement. I understand the "don't mess with a good thing" mentality but I don't see that AC has been rendered utterly unplayable by these recent changes as some people would have us believe.

However, I do concede that I haven't read every single thread on this forum (I've only just started taking an interest in the AC forums), and I haven't been privy to the seemingly titanic struggle between the developers and the community. I don't know the background or history, and I can only comment on what I see, but what I see is pretty sad.

Who are you? I have never seen you in-game.

Yes what I see too is pretty sad, all this flaming about 1.1 being "shit" and "AR is too overpowered".

Yes, the AR is overpowered and should be fixed, 1.1 is indeed not 'shit' but just takes practice to get use to.

I, lately have been playing 1.1 in single player trying it, and mucking around, it is much easier when you get use to it, but feels nothing like 1.0.4.

I don't play online because for some reason when I play, I lag like hell, when my internet is fine.

Quote:I do not understand all the fuss about this. The only detraction because of this is that you don't get your lists updated by the masterserver. And even that can be remedied so easily...

On the other hand, there really are no restrictions to what you can do in 1.04. You want to mess around with all the maps that have been called "crap"? Go right ahead. No one will be there if you don't want them to and no one can do a damn thing about it.

This really should be looked at as a benefit for players who still want to play 1.0. It's a loophole around the current map restrictions which many of you have complained so much about.

The map restrictions are in my opinion good and bad at the same time.

When I first came to Assault Cube, all I did was play Gema's and Twin Towers and other maps like those. Yes they were fun, but when I joined |FmC| they showed me the ladders Like HI-SKILL and TyD ladders. So I started playing on those servers, on proper official maps with good players on them. It was truly fun. Later on I went into iOD| and got obsessed with HI-SKILL, nothing personnel against TyD, but HI-SKILL had better servers ping-wise for me. But I still occasionally go back to twin tower maps and gema's for the fun it created.

But when I was playing these maps, all the players were rude, obnoxious and plain stupid. They were all in-mature and dicks quite frankly, and that is why I think there should be a map restriction. It might not stop little in-mature dicks running around on proper servers with proper maps, but it stops them making ''stupid" maps like ASIAN_PORN etc.



Quote:Aye.
If you want to play AssaultCube, then play it.
If you don't, then what's keeping you here??

Again, absolutely right.


Quote:They had to *go and remove entries from the list*...

It's a static file, for fuck's sake. All of this is well beyond retarded, in my opinion. Now I can't simply go and play some publics in a game that I love. What was I (or 1.0 players) doing to you? Nothing! We're in peace, we're not going and screaming in your face "go play that shitty game of yours".

Anyone with a brain knows that keeping up a static .txt file for hosting doesn't require any maintenance, doesn't cost to run. But no... interfere.

Well, thank you for slowly killing AC since 2009!

I'm sorry to disappoint everyone, but there's not much I can really do against idiotic regimes.

Wait, why am I even writing here? I'll probably get warning points from Brahma along the lines of "douche". He can call you a douche through the forum but you can't. Oh no.... -.-

Probably the most correct I have seen in this thread, nothing personnel against any DEV, but Drakas. is right.




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#77
Wanna hear a cool story?


This game kicks ass

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#78
if you didnt play older versions then STFO you will never understand this,go and play the version you want but don't post stuff like "then make your own anti-cheat sys..."

Musicman you are a newbie I have no idea who are you,as far i know youre a young ac player.
the devs were amazed by lame graphic pics explainig "!%&"#$ and they left the game in hands of a noob to kill it.

AC can't be upgraded It can only be modified,be honest it was a big failure trying to implement a new game system.Anyway I'm out of this #"%&/ place I have better things to do in 1.0.4 cya all,ban me,i don't give a fk,a better place is up.

*Warning lvl 50% haha --fk it--
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#79
Bye!
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(12 Nov 10, 03:41AM)Monas|SK| Wrote: if you didnt play older versions then STFO you will never understand this,go and play the version you want but don't post stuff like "then make your own anti-cheat sys..."

Stop complaining about something you have absolutely no idea how to improve upon, and I will stop saying that.

(12 Nov 10, 03:41AM)Monas|SK| Wrote: Musicman you are a newbie I have no idea who are you,as far i know youre a young ac player.

Okay.

(12 Nov 10, 03:41AM)Monas|SK| Wrote: the devs were amazed by lame graphic pics explainig "!%&"#$ and they left the game in hands of a noob to kill it.

Yes, because the people who develop AC are noobs who understand nothing about technology. Go look through the source code for the game and try to figure it out.

(12 Nov 10, 03:41AM)Monas|SK| Wrote: AC can't be upgraded It can only be modified,be honest it was a big failure trying to implement a new game system.Anyway I'm out of this #"%&/ place I have better things to do in 1.0.4 cya all,ban me,i don't give a fk,a better place is up.

Good riddance.

(12 Nov 10, 03:41AM)Monas|SK| Wrote: *Warning lvl 50% haha --fk it--

I've had more.

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(12 Nov 10, 04:11AM)MusicMan10 Wrote:
(12 Nov 10, 03:41AM)Monas|SK| Wrote: if you didnt play older versions then STFO you will never understand this,go and play the version you want but don't post stuff like "then make your own anti-cheat sys..."

Stop complaining about something you have absolutely no idea how to improve upon, and I will stop saying that.

(12 Nov 10, 03:41AM)Monas|SK| Wrote: Musicman you are a newbie I have no idea who are you,as far i know youre a young ac player.

Okay.

(12 Nov 10, 03:41AM)Monas|SK| Wrote: the devs were amazed by lame graphic pics explainig "!%&"#$ and they left the game in hands of a noob to kill it.

Yes, because the people who develop AC are noobs who understand nothing about technology. Go look through the source code for the game and try to figure it out.

(12 Nov 10, 03:41AM)Monas|SK| Wrote: AC can't be upgraded It can only be modified,be honest it was a big failure trying to implement a new game system.Anyway I'm out of this #"%&/ place I have better things to do in 1.0.4 cya all,ban me,i don't give a fk,a better place is up.

Good riddance.

(12 Nov 10, 03:41AM)Monas|SK| Wrote: *Warning lvl 50% haha --fk it--

I've had more.

gg monas
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#82
Bottom line; there are player-run masterservers that allow you to play 1.0 public and private. What more does anyone want? Who gives a shit if it doesn't have the official seal on it, it's still a masterserver, it will still work. Any lack of players on those servers cannot be blamed on the removal of the official server. If you want to get people playing 1.0 again you have to get your name and your servers out there. It can be done if you give it time. But this is way too damn early to be complaining that no one plays on your masterserver, that 1.0 is dead, or that the devs are forcing anything on anyone.

For those of you who are a little socially inept, here's a proper response for both sides of the isle:

Pro-1.0: I still want to play 1.0. I want to play games of all kinds without restrictions. I'm going to make my own masterserver.
Pro-1.1: Good luck to you and perhaps I'll stop by and play with you sometime! Afterall, 1.0 is the version many of us played for so long and had come to love.
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#83
wow, you guys sure have a lot of stuff to say. ( i didnt even bother to read the third page...)

i think the best solution so far is that find another 1.0.4 masterserver and make it popular.(im pretty sure someone out there was working on those. i remembered there was at least 2.); for those who likes 1.1, play.

im also pretty sure no matter how much we disagree with shutting down masterserver 1.0.4, the dev will not turn it back on. so all those flamewars here are pretty useless.

why dont we find ourself a new masterserver instead of wasting time flaming each other.
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#84
There is a prize winning idea pwned. ;D
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#85
i agree with pwned there is no point in arguing it is gone so dont complain about it jeez....just get yourself a master server and stop complaining
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(12 Nov 10, 07:35AM)pwned Wrote: wow, you guys sure have a lot of stuff to say. ( i didnt even bother to read the third page...)

i think the best solution so far is that find another 1.0.4 masterserver and make it popular.(im pretty sure someone out there was working on those. i remembered there was at least 2.); for those who likes 1.1, play.

im also pretty sure no matter how much we disagree with shutting down masterserver 1.0.4, the dev will not turn it back on. so all those flamewars here are pretty useless.

why dont we find ourself a new masterserver instead of wasting time flaming each other.

I think that the main point of peoples' flaming right now is more to get the devs as pissed off as they are just so everyone can feel the pain.
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#87
Here's $hields put in.
ShArE tEh LoVeS <3
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