Why* are** all the** marginal** clans dying?*
#79
*cough* .. tempest has been very helpful & concise in his earlier post .. I haven't read this whole thread, just picked up on it now actually ... sad to see the big divide though.
The cube-engine is built on ENet and eihrul wrote it, using UDP to mimick TCP; the whole game is basically totally built on the knowledge of the un-state-liness of UDP. That's the major cause of the ease with which cheats can be built into the game - cube1 (from which AC was branched off of) assumes that local games are synchronized by a mulitplexing server .. which does nothing else. AC has (more or less) recently moved a lot of the game-logic server-side - which negates the speed-/bandwidth-uninhibitedness (if that's a word) of ENet .. basically, LAG now really is becoming an issue, it wasn't before.

Dropped shots is most probably caused by the AntiCheat-Code; where I've had extensive discussions with Brahma about avoiding false-positives .. but he's been unable to spend time on the project for almost a year now and the latest I heard it's not going to be soon when he will again.

So, to reiterate: On one side there's the inherent local-game VS local-game concept of the core cubeengine - just because you "think" (locally) you hit someone, doesn't mean the network-game will grant you that hit - the remote game will decide that - and on the other side (the AntiCheat side) the server might be dropping your shots even then.
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Why* are** all the** marginal** clans dying?* - by OFFLINE - 07 Oct 11, 11:02PM
RE: -dyH| Recruiting. - by |FOX|Exia - 07 Oct 11, 11:26PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Ronald_Reagan - 07 Oct 11, 11:52PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Habluka - 07 Oct 11, 11:58PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by V-Man - 08 Oct 11, 12:16AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by bballn45 - 08 Oct 11, 01:03AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Joe Smith - 08 Oct 11, 04:10AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Lantry - 09 Oct 11, 08:35AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by lucky - 08 Oct 11, 04:39AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by YourSister - 08 Oct 11, 06:43AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Rezobro - 08 Oct 11, 04:41AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by V-Man - 08 Oct 11, 05:16AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by jAcKRoCk* - 08 Oct 11, 10:36AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Shorty - 08 Oct 11, 08:18AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by YourSister - 08 Oct 11, 12:06PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by DES|Anderson - 08 Oct 11, 09:01AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Orynge - 08 Oct 11, 09:05AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Shorty - 08 Oct 11, 12:11PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by pweaks - 08 Oct 11, 12:40PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Apollo{TyD} - 08 Oct 11, 12:59PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by pweaks - 08 Oct 11, 04:50PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Syntax - 09 Oct 11, 03:08AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Apollo{TyD} - 09 Oct 11, 09:43AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Syntax - 09 Oct 11, 01:15PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by ExodusS - 10 Oct 11, 03:46PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Shorty - 08 Oct 11, 01:19PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by sniperz - 08 Oct 11, 01:54PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Andrez - 08 Oct 11, 05:14PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Orynge - 08 Oct 11, 11:45PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Bloodsport - 08 Oct 11, 06:39PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by titiPT - 09 Oct 11, 12:50AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by lucky - 09 Oct 11, 01:15AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by XFA - 09 Oct 11, 07:24AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by DES|Anderson - 09 Oct 11, 08:38AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Orynge - 09 Oct 11, 09:47AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by sniperz - 09 Oct 11, 11:34AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Krayce - 09 Oct 11, 02:46PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Cap0ne - 09 Oct 11, 05:14PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Scorpion - 09 Oct 11, 08:28PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Habluka - 10 Oct 11, 05:34AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Alien - 09 Oct 11, 10:26PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Apollo{TyD} - 09 Oct 11, 10:40PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by YourSister - 10 Oct 11, 01:35AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by DES|Anderson - 10 Oct 11, 07:49AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Apollo{TyD} - 10 Oct 11, 09:44AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by jamz - 10 Oct 11, 11:47AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Stranz - 10 Oct 11, 11:02AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Atrimos - 10 Oct 11, 05:11PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Dade - 10 Oct 11, 07:40PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Habluka - 14 Oct 11, 04:39AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by jamz - 14 Oct 11, 02:42PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Scorpion - 11 Oct 11, 11:20PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Orynge - 12 Oct 11, 07:04AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Joe Smith - 12 Oct 11, 08:01PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Nativo - 13 Oct 11, 11:21AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by jAcKRoCk* - 13 Oct 11, 07:12PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Dade - 14 Oct 11, 01:18AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by CoOk13 - 14 Oct 11, 02:04AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Ronald_Reagan - 14 Oct 11, 05:06AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Habluka - 14 Oct 11, 05:31AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by jAcKRoCk* - 14 Oct 11, 06:52AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Dade - 14 Oct 11, 02:44PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by V-Man - 14 Oct 11, 05:35PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Roflcopter - 14 Oct 11, 11:42PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Ronald_Reagan - 14 Oct 11, 08:22PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Ronald_Reagan - 14 Oct 11, 11:50PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Apollo{TyD} - 15 Oct 11, 12:41AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Roflcopter - 15 Oct 11, 01:13AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by XFA - 15 Oct 11, 05:51AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Shorty - 15 Oct 11, 09:15AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by jAcKRoCk* - 15 Oct 11, 02:50AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by V-Man - 15 Oct 11, 04:35AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Hellspell - 15 Oct 11, 07:59AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Dade - 15 Oct 11, 07:06PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by V-Man - 15 Oct 11, 07:42PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by tempest - 15 Oct 11, 11:01PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Roflcopter - 16 Oct 11, 01:16AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Ronald_Reagan - 15 Oct 11, 08:24PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by flowtron - 16 Oct 11, 02:31AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Roflcopter - 16 Oct 11, 03:10AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Hellspell - 16 Oct 11, 06:07AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Ronald_Reagan - 16 Oct 11, 10:14AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Roflcopter - 16 Oct 11, 01:39PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by flowtron - 16 Oct 11, 11:46AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Dade - 16 Oct 11, 01:07PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by tempest - 16 Oct 11, 03:26PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Ronald_Reagan - 16 Oct 11, 07:22PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Dade - 16 Oct 11, 07:48PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by V-Man - 16 Oct 11, 09:42PM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Cemer - 17 Oct 11, 12:45AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Ronald_Reagan - 17 Oct 11, 01:17AM
RE: .why all clans dieing? - by Alien - 17 Oct 11, 07:34AM
RE: Why* are** all the** marginal** clans dying?* - by Qontrol - 19 Oct 11, 09:25PM
RE: Why* are** all the** marginal** clans dying?* - by Qontrol - 18 Oct 11, 11:25PM
RE: Why* are** all the** marginal** clans dying?* - by Qontrol - 19 Oct 11, 12:48AM