Facts plz:
1) They have cheats installed on the client they use to connect to pubs
2) They appear to be cheating in the pubs, but it is not obvious enough to BL right away (or else Jamz would have done so).
Now, if we put one and two together, it looks very likely that they were using cheats on a public server, and should therefore be blacklisted. The public demos by themselves are iffy, and just having cheats installed is no crime. However, having these two facts next to each other creates strong (enough) evidence.
READ CAREFULLY: I don't believe they should be bl'd for using the cheats on a private server. However, I still believe that the demos from these private games can be used to prove that they have cheats installed on their clients, and when you combine this with the fact that they appear to be cheating in a public server, it is enough proof to blacklist.
1) They have cheats installed on the client they use to connect to pubs
(10 Sep 11, 12:48AM)jamz Wrote: I'm absolutely certain they're using the same clients in public games
2) They appear to be cheating in the pubs, but it is not obvious enough to BL right away (or else Jamz would have done so).
Quote:and they are almost certainly still cheating (to a much lesser extent), but the public demos I have are nowhere near what the community at large would call proof.
Now, if we put one and two together, it looks very likely that they were using cheats on a public server, and should therefore be blacklisted. The public demos by themselves are iffy, and just having cheats installed is no crime. However, having these two facts next to each other creates strong (enough) evidence.
READ CAREFULLY: I don't believe they should be bl'd for using the cheats on a private server. However, I still believe that the demos from these private games can be used to prove that they have cheats installed on their clients, and when you combine this with the fact that they appear to be cheating in a public server, it is enough proof to blacklist.