Hmmm, interesting
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(01 Sep 10, 11:02AM)ketar Wrote: I already said this in another thread, between the lines: I'll try to say that again clearly. Isn't this a place a microcosm, a tiny reproduction of the bigger one outside?

In the big place don't we have - mainly - a judicial system that try to fight crime working for the rehabilitation of the one who committed it? If in the small one the same values have a meaning, Kirin is a success of the community. And a good example for others who made a mistake.

But I don't know, and the question is not a rhetorical one, if we share this vision. If it doesn't apply here, why?

ketar

An interesting point:

I’m not sure what we can include under the description of judicial system but…..
I would argue that one of the prime purposes of any judicial system is too remove the accused once found guilty, assuming a certain gravity of offense, from general society; this is too serve two purposes
a) protect society from any further offenses such an individual may commit and
b) punish that individual for the offenses proven against him.
I think most justice systems that exist in a “civilized” community view sentencing in this order:
1) the sentence itself, governed by the gravity of the offense and the sentencing guidelines at that time
2) punishment or retribution
3) rehabilitation

A lot depends on how serious an offense you consider cheating to be. Given the amount of problems cheating has given this game and most other online games i would say it is possibly the most serious. How long should the punishment be for someone who carries out the most serious offense within such a community?
If you believe that a judicial system works at all and want this micro community to reflect the macro community standards then the most serious offences carry a life sentence.
To get caught perpetrating this most serious offence more than once would I suggest, in the macro society you allude to, would mean natural life rather than the very long term of imprisonment a life sentence tends to mean.

As for the rehabilitation aspect; sure, I have no problem with attempting to rehabilitate offenders.
But ketar I ask you, if you were trying to rehabilitate a child molester would you let him/her work with children? I think you can follow my argument.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE0gbFBFgW4
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Hmmm, interesting - by tipper|DES| - 21 Aug 10, 07:14PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Robtics - 21 Aug 10, 07:31PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by tempest - 21 Aug 10, 08:49PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Brahma - 21 Aug 10, 09:34PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by MorganKell - 22 Aug 10, 05:07PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Brahma - 22 Aug 10, 06:15PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Apollo{TyD} - 22 Aug 10, 06:29PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by MykeGregory - 22 Aug 10, 06:34PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by MorganKell - 22 Aug 10, 07:12PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Brahma - 22 Aug 10, 07:14PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by MorganKell - 22 Aug 10, 07:32PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Gibstick - 22 Aug 10, 11:45PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by DrauL - 23 Aug 10, 04:45AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Mael - 23 Aug 10, 05:09AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by DrauL - 23 Aug 10, 05:25AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Zarjio - 23 Aug 10, 05:48AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Bullpup - 26 Aug 10, 09:10PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Zarjio - 27 Aug 10, 12:53AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Panda - 27 Aug 10, 02:38AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by jAcKRoCk* - 27 Aug 10, 03:13AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Ronald_Reagan - 27 Aug 10, 04:21AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Panda - 27 Aug 10, 04:58PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by jAcKRoCk* - 28 Aug 10, 12:38AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Luc@s - 27 Aug 10, 05:29PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by tipper|DES| - 29 Aug 10, 03:30PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Kirin - 29 Aug 10, 05:59PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by tipper|DES| - 29 Aug 10, 06:49PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Kirin - 29 Aug 10, 08:45PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by tipper|DES| - 30 Aug 10, 09:59PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Ronald_Reagan - 31 Aug 10, 06:57AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by V-Man - 31 Aug 10, 07:24AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by jamz - 31 Aug 10, 10:19AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by DrauL - 31 Aug 10, 07:25AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Luc@s - 31 Aug 10, 08:45AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by V-Man - 31 Aug 10, 07:32AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by DrauL - 31 Aug 10, 09:53AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Kirin - 31 Aug 10, 03:00PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by DrauL - 01 Sep 10, 05:19AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by tipper|DES| - 01 Sep 10, 10:19AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by ketar - 01 Sep 10, 11:02AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by tipper|DES| - 01 Sep 10, 04:13PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by ketar - 01 Sep 10, 05:49PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Kirin - 01 Sep 10, 02:28PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by ElCrema - 01 Sep 10, 06:33PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by tipper|DES| - 01 Sep 10, 06:45PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by ketar - 01 Sep 10, 07:38PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Alien - 01 Sep 10, 07:03PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Drakas - 01 Sep 10, 10:21PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by MorganKell - 02 Sep 10, 10:35AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Bullpup - 04 Sep 10, 04:23PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Kirin - 04 Sep 10, 04:51PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by lordamit - 04 Sep 10, 08:11PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by titiPT - 05 Sep 10, 01:08AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by V-Man - 05 Sep 10, 08:16AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Veritas - 06 Sep 10, 09:17PM
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RE: Hmmm, interesting - by tempest - 09 Sep 10, 08:17PM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by titiPT - 09 Sep 10, 09:39PM
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RE: Hmmm, interesting - by MorganKell - 10 Sep 10, 05:56AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by sollyminto - 10 Sep 10, 08:11AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by titiPT - 10 Sep 10, 09:10AM
RE: Hmmm, interesting - by Huntsman - 10 Sep 10, 12:06PM
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