[split] IAF|Marti discussion
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[19.30.14] IAF|Marti: KIRIN i need ur help!!
[19.30.34] IAF|Marti: some noobie friend of mine also playing ac has put an aimbot in my ac....
[19.30.40] IAF|Marti: where is it so i can delete....
[19.30.51] IAF|Marti: he thinks it funny so he wont tell...
[19.31.09] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i want to thrust you ONCE!
[19.31.18] Francesco Al. (Kirin): remove the whole AC folder
[19.31.23] Francesco Al. (Kirin): and reinstall AC
[19.31.26] IAF|Marti: and re download?
[19.31.28] IAF|Marti: ok
[19.31.29] Francesco Al. (Kirin): yes
[19.31.35] IAF|Marti: i do right now
[19.31.39] Francesco Al. (Kirin): man
[19.31.51] Francesco Al. (Kirin): at the slithest sign of something i dont like
[19.31.52] IAF|Marti: crappy noob friend.. i smacked his face
[19.31.56] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i will report you
[19.32.09] IAF|Marti: why report me?
[19.32.15] IAF|Marti: i dont hack or something
[19.32.19] IAF|Marti: dont even know how to
[19.32.21] Francesco Al. (Kirin): you act good and nothing will happen
[19.32.26] IAF|Marti: :P
[19.32.31] Francesco Al. (Kirin): do something strange
[19.32.39] Francesco Al. (Kirin): and i'll burn you
[19.32.40] IAF|Marti: i know that IF i hack or something i get kicked out iaf
[19.32.52] IAF|Marti: but i dont even know how..
[19.32.57] IAF|Marti: :P so thats no problem
[19.33.06] Francesco Al. (Kirin): also this conversation is going on IAF private forum
[19.33.13] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i cannot keep secrets
[19.33.26] IAF|Marti: but there can be one thing.. my bro plays on same IP
[19.33.35] Francesco Al. (Kirin): stop this right now
[19.33.41] IAF|Marti: what?
[19.33.45] Francesco Al. (Kirin): excuses
[19.33.52] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i feel them from a mile away
[19.33.54] IAF|Marti: dude i dont hack trust me
[19.33.59] Francesco Al. (Kirin): if your ip will do anything wrong
[19.34.03] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i'll ban you
[19.34.21] IAF|Marti: i know.. i just tell u i dont know all that he does
[19.34.26] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i wont care about brothers frinds and shit like that
[19.34.45] IAF|Marti: lol i will make a pass on every file
[19.34.53] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i wont care about you or your brother if your ip will be segnaled
[19.35.24] IAF|Marti: lol u go offense on me right now?
[19.35.35] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i'm not offending or something
[19.35.37] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i said
[19.35.44] IAF|Marti: il feels though...
[19.35.55] Francesco Al. (Kirin): if i catch your ip doing anyhthing strange you'll be a dead men in AC
[19.36.11] IAF|Marti: ok
[19.36.34] IAF|Marti: lol if my IP doin anything strange and i get ban i quit AC ;)
[19.37.13] IAF|Marti: but werent u doin strange in your past ?
[19.37.21] IAF|Marti: ok  redownloaded AC
[19.37.26] Francesco Al. (Kirin): this is another mistake you made
[19.37.37] Francesco Al. (Kirin): talking about me
[19.37.38] IAF|Marti: i make no mistake man
[19.37.46] IAF|Marti: i just tell ppl forgive each other
[19.37.55] IAF|Marti: not trying to offend or something
[19.38.01] IAF|Marti: just have conversation
[19.38.02] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i forgive who has good intentions
[19.38.09] IAF|Marti: i have
[19.38.16] Francesco Al. (Kirin): prove it
[19.38.20] IAF|Marti: but im going check AC if it work
[19.38.25] IAF|Marti: lol what i need to do?
[19.38.52] Francesco Al. (Kirin): not cheat
[19.39.11] IAF|Marti: i dont so thats no prob for me ;) also i dont use that command anymore
[19.39.37] Francesco Al. (Kirin): man you are on very thin string
[19.39.44] Francesco Al. (Kirin): a mistake and you'll fall
[19.39.51] IAF|Marti: dude why am i on thin string?
[19.40.00] Francesco Al. (Kirin): because u told me this
[19.40.06] IAF|Marti: omg...
[19.40.16] Francesco Al. (Kirin): this conv will go straight into IAF private section
(and after changing mind the IAF forum became
AC forum since IAF cant harbour a *possible* cheater)
[19.40.27] IAF|Marti: if i dont tell u i couldnt remove aimbot?
[19.40.43] IAF|Marti: btw kinda dumb i didnt think of redownload...
[19.41.03] Francesco Al. (Kirin): you dont think of many things
[19.41.43] IAF|Marti: its cuz some ppl are still child ;) and in puberty u dont know what u do :P
[19.42.12] Francesco Al. (Kirin): Marti stop talking
[19.42.12] IAF|Marti: but post if u want cuz i dont think i would make mistake very easy ;)
[19.42.16] Francesco Al. (Kirin): it's better for u
[19.42.16] IAF|Marti: ok sorry..
[19.42.26] IAF|Marti: we play 1v1 once?
[19.42.31] Francesco Al. (Kirin): no
[19.42.37] IAF|Marti: ok.......
[19.42.45] IAF|Marti: well im in ac cya

sadly i have to report this today minutes ago marti came to me
and this smells bad...

Marti's IP: 87.210.159.232

i leave the judgement to u server owner, if someone has demos of marti gets them analized and send them to us please...
IAF wants to know if a clanmate cheats or not, and to be crystal clear with the community...
if someone manages to find conclusive proofs IAF would be extremely thankfull...
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(24 Jun 10, 06:57PM)Kirin Wrote:
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[19.30.14] IAF|Marti: KIRIN i need ur help!!
[19.30.34] IAF|Marti: some noobie friend of mine also playing ac has put an aimbot in my ac....
[19.30.40] IAF|Marti: where is it so i can delete....
[19.30.51] IAF|Marti: he thinks it funny so he wont tell...
[19.31.09] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i want to thrust you ONCE!
[19.31.18] Francesco Al. (Kirin): remove the whole AC folder
[19.31.23] Francesco Al. (Kirin): and reinstall AC
[19.31.26] IAF|Marti: and re download?
[19.31.28] IAF|Marti: ok
[19.31.29] Francesco Al. (Kirin): yes
[19.31.35] IAF|Marti: i do right now
[19.31.39] Francesco Al. (Kirin): man
[19.31.51] Francesco Al. (Kirin): at the slithest sign of something i dont like
[19.31.52] IAF|Marti: crappy noob friend.. i smacked his face
[19.31.56] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i will report you
[19.32.09] IAF|Marti: why report me?
[19.32.15] IAF|Marti: i dont hack or something
[19.32.19] IAF|Marti: dont even know how to
[19.32.21] Francesco Al. (Kirin): you act good and nothing will happen
[19.32.26] IAF|Marti: :P
[19.32.31] Francesco Al. (Kirin): do something strange
[19.32.39] Francesco Al. (Kirin): and i'll burn you
[19.32.40] IAF|Marti: i know that IF i hack or something i get kicked out iaf
[19.32.52] IAF|Marti: but i dont even know how..
[19.32.57] IAF|Marti: :P so thats no problem
[19.33.06] Francesco Al. (Kirin): also this conversation is going on IAF private forum
[19.33.13] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i cannot keep secrets
[19.33.26] IAF|Marti: but there can be one thing.. my bro plays on same IP
[19.33.35] Francesco Al. (Kirin): stop this right now
[19.33.41] IAF|Marti: what?
[19.33.45] Francesco Al. (Kirin): excuses
[19.33.52] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i feel them from a mile away
[19.33.54] IAF|Marti: dude i dont hack trust me
[19.33.59] Francesco Al. (Kirin): if your ip will do anything wrong
[19.34.03] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i'll ban you
[19.34.21] IAF|Marti: i know.. i just tell u i dont know all that he does
[19.34.26] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i wont care about brothers frinds and shit like that
[19.34.45] IAF|Marti: lol i will make a pass on every file
[19.34.53] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i wont care about you or your brother if your ip will be segnaled
[19.35.24] IAF|Marti: lol u go offense on me right now?
[19.35.35] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i'm not offending or something
[19.35.37] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i said
[19.35.44] IAF|Marti: il feels though...
[19.35.55] Francesco Al. (Kirin): if i catch your ip doing anyhthing strange you'll be a dead men in AC
[19.36.11] IAF|Marti: ok
[19.36.34] IAF|Marti: lol if my IP doin anything strange and i get ban i quit AC ;)
[19.37.13] IAF|Marti: but werent u doin strange in your past ?
[19.37.21] IAF|Marti: ok  redownloaded AC
[19.37.26] Francesco Al. (Kirin): this is another mistake you made
[19.37.37] Francesco Al. (Kirin): talking about me
[19.37.38] IAF|Marti: i make no mistake man
[19.37.46] IAF|Marti: i just tell ppl forgive each other
[19.37.55] IAF|Marti: not trying to offend or something
[19.38.01] IAF|Marti: just have conversation
[19.38.02] Francesco Al. (Kirin): i forgive who has good intentions
[19.38.09] IAF|Marti: i have
[19.38.16] Francesco Al. (Kirin): prove it
[19.38.20] IAF|Marti: but im going check AC if it work
[19.38.25] IAF|Marti: lol what i need to do?
[19.38.52] Francesco Al. (Kirin): not cheat
[19.39.11] IAF|Marti: i dont so thats no prob for me ;) also i dont use that command anymore
[19.39.37] Francesco Al. (Kirin): man you are on very thin string
[19.39.44] Francesco Al. (Kirin): a mistake and you'll fall
[19.39.51] IAF|Marti: dude why am i on thin string?
[19.40.00] Francesco Al. (Kirin): because u told me this
[19.40.06] IAF|Marti: omg...
[19.40.16] Francesco Al. (Kirin): this conv will go straight into IAF private section
(and after changing mind the IAF forum became
AC forum since IAF cant harbour a *possible* cheater)
[19.40.27] IAF|Marti: if i dont tell u i couldnt remove aimbot?
[19.40.43] IAF|Marti: btw kinda dumb i didnt think of redownload...
[19.41.03] Francesco Al. (Kirin): you dont think of many things
[19.41.43] IAF|Marti: its cuz some ppl are still child ;) and in puberty u dont know what u do :P
[19.42.12] Francesco Al. (Kirin): Marti stop talking
[19.42.12] IAF|Marti: but post if u want cuz i dont think i would make mistake very easy ;)
[19.42.16] Francesco Al. (Kirin): it's better for u
[19.42.16] IAF|Marti: ok sorry..
[19.42.26] IAF|Marti: we play 1v1 once?
[19.42.31] Francesco Al. (Kirin): no
[19.42.37] IAF|Marti: ok.......
[19.42.45] IAF|Marti: well im in ac cya

sadly i have to report this today minutes ago marti came to me
and this smells bad...

Marti's IP: 87.210.159.232

i leave the judgement to u server owner, if someone has demos of marti gets them analized and send them to us please...
IAF wants to know if a clanmate cheats or not, and to be crystal clear with the community...
if someone manages to find conclusive proofs IAF would be extremely thankfull...
want demo's of me? i can send u some.. check as much as u want u wont find me cheat cuz i know im clean.... it was 1v1 vs my bro RikPik where i found out... i immediately quit AC and asked what to do with it...
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#3
whouhwhouhwhou, mat and me got some problems to each other, but he isn't a cheater thats for sure. calm down guys.
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#4
Marti, without any worries, i trust u...
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#5
marti be sure if you aren't cheater admin will don't ban/blacklist you . just post here: http://forum.cubers.net/forum-12.html and don't reply in bl thread

Mod edit: feel free to post in this thread, now that I've moved the posts.
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#6
I believe that mistakes happen... and I understand that Kirin is overreacting a bit here... it is natural considering all pressure he received (and still receives) for his past mistakes. So he does not want to risk your "regeneration".

So, my opinion is to forget this incident... We are still warned, and be careful next time Marti.
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#7
I'm confused... I thought Kirin was the hacker?
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#8
Not in this issue.
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#9
Well yes, not in this issue... but why is he still here?
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#10
irony at its finest
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#11
indeed
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#12
This thread has so much win.

Cheater 1: No, you cheat, I can't trust you N E MORE! I report you!
Cheater 2: No, you cheat first, I can't trust you N E MORE EITHER! I report you!
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(25 Jun 10, 03:43AM)Dreamer Wrote: This thread has so much win.

Cheater 1: No, you cheat, I can't trust you N E MORE! I report you!
Cheater 2: No, you cheat first, I can't trust you N E MORE EITHER! I report you!
So Dreamer you think IAF must hide what's happening with Marti ? Or show it's a reasonable clan ?
You mean someone who made mistakes can't do anything good ?
Explain you please.

EDIT : IAF is waiting for your statement to learn what we will have to do with Marti.
As I know him, he has always been a good member. And if you believe him, then don't complain in game if he hs you. Believe him completely or not at all.
I decided to believe him, I hope you'll do like me. And like said Kirin, decision is now to server owners.
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#14
I have no opinion. Don't wait for me. I couldn't care less.
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#15
He's simply explaining how its so ironic that Kirin is 'warning us' or 'telling us' this issue Marti has/had.
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#16
Ok so if you have no opinion Dreamer, please do not post.
I think he acted good. But please stay in the subject of the thread. Marti.
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#17
i think marti was/is a good player, i played with/vs him many times. i trust you marti and if you are cheater, i just need see evidence ( demos.)
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#18
so sad,i don't know what to think :s marti was always respectable and clean player :( but wth did an aimbot in your AC....the brother or friend story is a big classic here :( for sure now doubt is here and you will be under control so pls act right marti at least for all your clanmates ;)
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#19
i want to see evidence too if id hack.... :S i tell u i smacked my friend in his face for doing this and dont see him as friend anymore.......

but all thanks for trusting me that i dont cheat cuz i dont
pakit: aimbot came cuz i was on toilet.. my friend search google: aimbot assaultcube he found one copied it and placed somwhere... i redownloaded and aimbot isnt stored on my computer so i never find it

btw dont go hard on kirin he did what he thought was right....
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#20
(25 Jun 10, 12:09PM)IAF|Marti Wrote: i want to see evidence too if id hack.... :S i tell u i smacked my friend in his face for doing this and dont see him as friend anymore.......

but all thanks for trusting me that i dont cheat cuz i dont
pakit: aimbot came cuz i was on toilet.. my friend search google: aimbot assaultcube he found one copied it and placed somwhere... i redownloaded and aimbot isnt stored on my computer so i never find it

btw dont go hard on kirin he did what he thought was right....
That excuse is something we're heard to many times by now. However, you are by all means responsible for any actions coming from your IP address.
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#21
(25 Jun 10, 12:55PM)pwnage{TyD} Wrote:
(25 Jun 10, 12:09PM)IAF|Marti Wrote: i want to see evidence too if id hack.... :S i tell u i smacked my friend in his face for doing this and dont see him as friend anymore.......

but all thanks for trusting me that i dont cheat cuz i dont
pakit: aimbot came cuz i was on toilet.. my friend search google: aimbot assaultcube he found one copied it and placed somwhere... i redownloaded and aimbot isnt stored on my computer so i never find it

btw dont go hard on kirin he did what he thought was right....
That excuse is something we're heard to many times by now. However, you are by all means responsible for any actions coming from your IP address.

maybe right in this case but not in all cases :p
http://www.generation-nt.com/wikipedia-q...20663.html
(french, need translation if you don't understand)
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(25 Jun 10, 09:59AM)|BC|Wolf Wrote: He's simply explaining how its so ironic that Kirin is 'warning us' or 'telling us' this issue Marti has/had.

Guys sorry if I drop in here. I could say this in any other occasion and not only talking about a member of my clan. But this post has been under my attention so I have to say it here.

I am older, as someone knows. But many here are young. And Kirin is on of them. Why we do not understand and accept that someone - youngsters above all - makes experiences also through mistakes?

Kirin made mistakes, he recognized them, he tried his best to prove us that he is working on the right side. He's working with Brahma (B. correct me if I am wrong) and he's doing his best to be rehabilitated. In a nutshell: there are mistakes that should not scar one forever. And I think that his was one of those. So there is not anything ironic in this: just the clean and appreciable effort of someone that is helping the community to detect cheating.

Can we evaluate acts for what they are and not for the past of the one who's speaking? Even our societies and all the code of laws are based on this. Is here different?
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#23
You are absolutely right, ketar.

Ty for your post.

So, yes... Kirin did big mistakes in the past, and he admitted this.
I consider this far more valuable than people that deny its mistakes at all costs.

I believe all people that accepts its punishment must be forgiven and re-integrated.

It was passed a long time since Kirin's mistake... so what is your problem, Dreamer? Why are you so harsh and tough in forgive this guy which is trying so hard to regenerate himself?

Many other players, in his place, would simply quit the game... and some others (we have this example in this community) would be working *against* the game, and not in its benefit as Kirin is doing in the last year.

There is not endless punishment, Dreamer.

Anyway, I still think Kirin overreacted and got a bit fast with this post.... youth... pff.
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#24
anyone trying to see me cheat in demo? or is this forgotten and done and i can play like i used too?
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#25
Whats up with IAF people getting modified ac clients, without knowing!?
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#26
Kirin, I appreciate your reporting this. It shows us that you have leanred from your mistakes.

As for Marti, he DID admit to having it. If he is suspected of using an aimbot after this then we all know the second time isn't a mistake.
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#27
This last month i think we spend more time talking about cheats then playing the game and having fun.
I mean every day its all about cheating. Who cheats and whos not.
After a while you suspect everyone better then yourself.
I rather didnt see it written anywhere, i wish it could be solved in privacy.
The paranoia grows and grows until we think everyone is really cheating and then we just quit this and find something else thats more about the fun.

Newcomers should not have to see threads about every possible cheater in here.
It gives a negative impression about the game.
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(25 Jun 10, 09:29PM)Matasar Wrote: This last month i think we spend more time talking about cheats then playing the game and having fun.
I mean every day its all about cheating. Who cheats and whos not.
After a while you suspect everyone better then yourself.
I rather didnt see it written anywhere, i wish it could be solved in privacy.
The paranoia grows and grows until we think everyone is really cheating and then we just quit this and find something else thats more about the fun.

Newcomers should not have to see threads about every possible cheater in here.
It gives a negative impression about the game.

agree
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#29
I said I was confused because I was. I didn't know the situation. All I knew was Kirin = Cheater. Thanks for clarifying.
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#30
(24 Jun 10, 06:57PM)Kirin Wrote:
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[19.30.34] IAF|Marti: some noobie friend of mine also playing ac has put an aimbot in my ac....
Am i the only one that's curious about the "friend"?
Who's that "friend" Marti?

(24 Jun 10, 06:57PM)Kirin Wrote:
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[19.38.25] IAF|Marti: lol what i need to do?
[19.38.52] Francesco Al. (Kirin): not cheat
[19.39.11] IAF|Marti: i dont so thats no prob for me ;) also i dont use that command anymore
What command?
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