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25 Jan 11, 01:03AM
(This post was last modified: 25 Jan 11, 01:04AM by MykeGregory.)
Who would rather that AC_Douze was for FFA gametypes only?
i feel the the novelty of joining a server then seeing "unarmed called a vote - CTF on AC_douze" or "TOSOK - AC_Douze" or "TDM - AC_bloody_Douze" has worn off.
it happens all the time when i play pubs (which is all the time, lol.)
what are your views?
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(Free For All).
Douze is definitely better for OSOK than TOSOK IMO - unless it gets too big, then you get spawn-killed a lot. I do like CTF on Douze, though, since it's one of the few maps where I've got the hang of getting across the map quickly.
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(25 Jan 11, 01:23AM)Jack Wrote: unless it gets too big, then you get spawn-killed a lot.
Eh that happens anyway. Spawn, die, wait for three guys to finish, rinse and repeat.
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I'd be completely for that. To be perfectly honest, douze is almost ruining the game for me at the moment, due to being unable to play a full game without it being voted in.
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Honestly, i hate ANY osok mode on ac_douze. Too often half of the kills are based on who is lucky enough to not spawn in 5 enemy crosshairs (AKA, the freaking middle. You can NOT survive in the middle).
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Yes You can survive, never the less i feel you :)
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* eftertanke waits for makkE to say that Douze should never have been made official.
I think maprots should be left up to the server Op. But I agree that this should be encouraged (block votes for anything other than FFA on Douze.) At the same time I feel that few people will heed it.
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25 Jan 11, 09:58AM
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I got told today that all official matchs get played on Douze. How do the newbies get that stuck in there head?
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(25 Jan 11, 09:58AM)BULL3T Wrote: I got told today that all official matchs get played on Douze. How do the newbies get that stuck in there head?
I got told tosok is the only mode played in clan matches
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-Aac_douze#<mode to block here>
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(25 Jan 11, 01:03AM)MykeGregory Wrote: Who would rather that AC_Douze was for FFA gametypes only?
i feel the the novelty of joining a server then seeing "unarmed called a vote - CTF on AC_douze" or "TOSOK - AC_Douze" or "TDM - AC_bloody_Douze" has worn off.
it happens all the time when i play pubs (which is all the time, lol.)
what are your views?
I have nothing against a CTF on AC_douze once in a while, it can be very intense and challenging, trying to get to the enemy flag and then run back to base to score. On a crowded public server, it's a good way to a few fits of hysterical laughter.
That's not what I'd like to play all the time though (I like maps with a lot of corners and obstacles you can hide behind or jump over).
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It was designed as a Sauerbraten map, I personally would've liked it to stay that way...
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(25 Jan 11, 11:11AM)Orynge Wrote: It was designed as a Sauerbraten map... It was first released, as a Cube map, in April 2004.
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25 Jan 11, 02:31PM
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I have a better proposition.
In a future release, the map owner will be able to put a player number limit for each mode inside the .cfg.
So, people will be allowed to vote ctf ac_douze if the server has up to 6 players, and osok ac_douze if the server has up to 10 players... obviously the exact limit will be chosen by the respective mapmakers.
And if the server owner modify these limits (changing the .cfg), he would be dropped from the ms.
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This would only work in practice if the client capacity of the server was temporarily reduced for the duration of that game.
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25 Jan 11, 03:05PM
(This post was last modified: 25 Jan 11, 03:05PM by tempest.)
@Brahma: Do we really need to have this start again? There are no technical measures to prevent people from doing stupid things (here, voting f1 for FFA on douze if there are 18 people on the server). You disabled some of the worst gema maps, now they play this. It's the same kind of people.
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Douze is a Sauerbraten map and it should stay there.
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@ jamz
Yes. If the server is always full (like 20 players all time), it would be impossible to vote ctf ac_douze... must probably it would only be possible to vote a DM game in it, or even nothing since ac_douze is not managed to be played by 20 players. In this sense, the server could even ignore if the server owner put in his rotation any map/mode combination that disrupts the .cfg limits imposed by the mapmaker.
@ tempest
What is your problem?
I always played ctf ac_douze with 20 players, but never enjoyed to play gema. It is not the same people. The people that was used to play dust was also different.
We had about 500000 different players in the last 2 years, but less than 500 are known/regular players.
Our public is incredible mutable, and a lot of people play this game only once because they are looking for a CS clone (but this game is more like Quake). Other huge amount of people play this game for some weeks because they enjoyed some "weird" map/mode. Many of them like to play in small spaces full of nades with no health packs, others enjoy huge sniper camping sites, others love weird gema maps... But they are all different people, with different tastes. And it is simply impossible to please all these different tastes without perverting the game.
When you say "it's the same kind of people", you are only expressing your preconceptions and ignorance.
So, if you do not have anything constructive to add, please, shut up.
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25 Jan 11, 06:58PM
(This post was last modified: 25 Jan 11, 07:01PM by tempest.)
No comment.
EDIT: As I feel I still have to elaborate this a bit - it is the same kind of people as in "they either don't care about sensitive gameplay or just have no clue whatsoever".
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Sorry, tempest... I was too harsh.
I agree with you... we have 2 kinds of people, those who like AC as it is managed to be, and those who don't.
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server owners need to just -A switch it and have the map non votedable, i have ac_douze and ac_desert non votable. But ac_desert and ac_douze brings in more people than any other map/mode combo. Certain server owners like their servers to be full, and those map/mode combos get people in and keep them in. Its mostly the newer players that are afraid to try anything else. ( i can relate, and pretty sure some of yall can also)
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25 Jan 11, 09:12PM
(This post was last modified: 25 Jan 11, 09:12PM by tempest.)
(25 Jan 11, 07:05PM)Brahma Wrote: Sorry, tempest... I was too harsh.
I agree with you... we have 2 kinds of people, those who like AC as it is managed to be, and those who don't.
No problem. Now that I read my comment again, I realize it's quite confused. Can't help it, it's so clear in my head, and then... :D
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Maybe what we need It's some servers with the voting non active, and just Go with the map rotation even if it has ac_douze, It's quite annoying to play in some servers you are in the middle of a good game regardless the map, and some Dude votes over and over ac_douze in CTF, the worst part is that the vote ALWAYS pass, so Maybe we can sort something like My idea?
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Make a server with voting disabled?
Ooh, have an option to disable voting except for "setnext" votes! :D
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Is it possible? I mean like it used to be in the HI-SKILL servers only kick / shuffle votes but no change in the map rot??
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Not sure about that. I just wish people would use setnext more than they use the other map/mode votes.
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Well i can't agree more lets Pray shall we??
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I think that douze shouldn't be FFA only. Freedom of choice comes first.
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I rather enjoy TDM on ac_douze. It's an open killing ground, and it's one of my favorite maps, especially for sniping.
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