(01 Jan 15, 01:54PM)DES|Anderson Wrote: I grow tired of hearing this same debate over and over again. It is illegal in the UK to promote or display Nazi propaganda, it is an offence under the 1986 public order act and has successfully been prosecuted in the UK in 2010 see link below;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north...486884.stm
there are better ways to restrict nazi propaganda than by explicitly limiting it.
it isn't an explicit offence in australia at least, but its still illegal. http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/c.../s18c.html
"It is unlawful for a person to do an act, otherwise than in private, if:
(a) the act is reasonably likely, in all the circumstances, to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or a group of people"
nazi imagery comes under these definitions. so, nazis still cant be bigoted cunts, and it works better than explicitly making nazi imagery illegal, as you aren't unnecessarily restricting free speech in other areas.
heres the thing: in AC, no actual harm (the reason we SHOULD have these laws in the first place, some politicians get it confused and think discrimination laws are there to protect people from being offended) can come from propagating nazi imagery. so why ban it?
(01 Jan 15, 01:54PM)DES|Anderson Wrote: It is also illegal in that bastion of free speech the US under racial hatred laws.
i'm interested; under which laws? not doubting you, just curious.
(01 Jan 15, 10:36AM)Sveark Wrote: Lets carry out a thought experiment. Suppose we have a man who doesn't know what chocolate is. He has never been shown a picture of chocolate, he didn't sniff nor touch it, he never heard of it. Can this man ever think of chocolate? No. Consider a man in two hypostasises. First hypostasis: the body. A great physician of antiquity said: "you are what you eat". And that's really it. You eat, you drink, and everything you drink and eat eventually becomes yourself. Prove me wrong. The same way the information obtained by you via the six well-known channeles (ears, eyes, etc) eventually forms your identity, and this is the second hypostasis. While in the mother's womb, you are already beginning to receive information, but so far only auditory. Those sounds that you hear form synapses between the neurons in your brain, which then become a part of your habits, character, fears, etc. And this continues to happen to you through all your life. The system generates you according to the image and likeness of itself. Of course, you are endowed with intelligence, and thus you are a self-generated system yourself, but you live in the same system that everyone else lives in, you are a part of it.
yes i'm acquainted with platonic philosophy. nice to see other people are also.
(01 Jan 15, 10:36AM)Sveark Wrote: The opinion that you call entirely your own, really is not, because it's composed of the information you were able to get and the source of that information is not you.
i've developed my opinion by reading what other people have wrote. i take in what i can see is factual and apply it, and thus i formulate my own opinion in my head. its developed from others but still independent.
(01 Jan 15, 02:19PM)Sveark Wrote: I don't give a shit about your sick association of communism with unnecessary deaths.
leninist-style socialism leads naturally to tyranny. i guess i'm veering a wee bit off-topic with that statement tho.
there are genuine, serious problems in the world. racially offensive crap in AC isn't a problem, unless you're trying to be offended. so ease up, relax, play the game, don't be troll bait, and maybe we'll all get along a bit better.