Upcoming Release Balance Discussion (SVN)
#49
I've tested shotgun vs smg against Brett on scaffold and I think the shotgun is clearly to weak except for extreme camping behind corners or maybe vs. a lot of weakened opponents. We've played to 15 kills and when I had the SMG I won like 15:3 or 4 and when I had shotgun Brett with SMG won 15:7. I'm not a very good shotgun player, even though I have trained it in the 1104 version to be able to compare and had around my normal stats like with AR on a public (maybe a bit weaker). My estimate is that if I had better shotgun skills I would have been able to kill him maybe 2-4 times more.

If you have introduced ranged zones, how about making it 3? One which is point blank (2 cubes) and gibs every time if all (or all but one of the) pellets hit, then the one which is close (~6-8 cubes, same as the point blank range atm but a bit farther) and then the far range as it is now.

Note: I don't know how much a cube is, but when doing some theoretical testing with the SG it clearly seemed too close/too weak and so I've done some rough estimates.

Edit: Now I've tested SMG vs AR on desert and Marten won with AR 15:11 and with SMG 15:6. He was training SMG more than me and I personally prefer SMG on desert anyway, but still I think it shows that SMG is better than AR (on this map). Maybe someone should repeat the test with players equally skilled in both guns and the map, if that is possible. Also the SMG is MUCH easier to control. Maybe there would have been a different outcome if I hadn't ruined my fine motor skills for the day :)
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