[tldr;]Grenade Launcher

[Felix-The-Ghost]

I guess this thread would belong here -- I'm looking for more opinions than I would likely gather posting as a "casual idea" in the ideas thread.

I'm intrigued by the thought of having a grenade launcher as a primary weapon (I am aware there is a mod)

For people automatically going into the "overpowered" mindset, consider the following attributes I would consider weaknesses for such a weapon in the AC engine:

• It would be your primary, meaning no long range projectiles but your pistol
  
• It would use the same hand grenades* that you'd otherwise throw
  
• Incredibly long reload time, possibly long delay between fires
  • You would be overwhelmed by people with faster weapons
    
• Grenade kills count as frags, point wise
  • This means sniper is still long-range king
    
• Grenades have a small area-of-effect in AC
  • With the low rate of fire, you wouldn't be able to attack enemies, if the are spread out, very quickly without switching to your pistol
    
• Possibility for friendly fire limits blind-fire in team modes
  • It would also uniquely be the only primary you could kill yourself with
    
  • Would mean dangerous to use in cramped areas
    
• No reticule
  

Now, why I think it'd be cool:

• It's a unique weapon from other primaries
  
• Shoot grenades that travel fast and far(ther)
  
• Bounce grenades of walls?
  
• Blow up on impact with enemies? (not after bounce)
  

Caveats:

• I'm not sure in our active developers' collective ability to make this possible easily
  • Calculating when to bounce of walls/heightfields (I think optimally it wouldn't if you shot directly at the wall instead of an angle (to shoot into rooms)
    
  • model/animation(s)/sound(s)
    
  • Not sure about toggling behavior or choosing between one of the following:
    • Grenades detonate instantly on surfaces -- would be weird on the skymap :P
      
    • Grenades bounce of surfaces
      
    • Grenades don't detonate until user commands (or other explosions)
      
• No existing map has been designed with this possible weapon in mind
  
• There would be the potential for rage debates regarding stats/behavior (much like the shotgun)
  

Right off, I don't really see this happening, but I think it'd be a fun weapon to use, though I really don't know what behavior would be programmed.

I made this thread for intelligent discussion... please no "tldr:" or "F2" :x

*perhaps unrealistic, but you know, AC