03 Feb 11, 01:50PM
There's a difference between camp and tactics.
Join a random pub if you want to see camping.
Watch ACWC demos of the Australian A team if you want to see tactics.
http://acwc.woop.us/2010/matches#m17
If you watch how Undead, Shorty, R4zor, Carnifex, and Ruthless play, you'll see the greatest team tactics (and also individual tactics) known to man. The Australia A vs Brazil A team in the semifinals proved to be very interesting because the AUSA team undoubtedly had the best tactics and teamworks the whole tournament, whereas the Brazil team practically dominated with high levels of skill (they went on to win).
Waiting for an enemy to come around an entrance or a corner isn't camping. I've watched players like Drakas, Davitomon, Shorty, Undead, and many others do it many times with pwntastic results. It's not camping. Camping is hardly effective.
I usually find it disgusting when a player dies and says something along the lines of 'camper'. So what? Does the kill not count because he was camping? If you had better tactics, you might not have charged through the entrance. And then there's the dispute on whether it was camping in the first place...
I do agree that camping can be disruptive to gameplay, especially in pubs. But what can we do? I don't think kicking someone out of a server can be justified because they were camping. I've been killed by campers many times in pubs too, but that's really my own problem. There's no need to try and solve it by kicking someone out. Just go around another path and get rid of the camper.
Then there are maps that have "sniper fortresses", or havens for campers. It's those maps where not being in the camping spot puts you in dramatically inferior position. Well...Why play on this map, if it's that big of a problem? Most mappers design their maps with some intention to prevent camping (except for those funky fun maps).
Anyway, that's my two cents. It's really not that big of a deal to me.
Join a random pub if you want to see camping.
Watch ACWC demos of the Australian A team if you want to see tactics.
http://acwc.woop.us/2010/matches#m17
If you watch how Undead, Shorty, R4zor, Carnifex, and Ruthless play, you'll see the greatest team tactics (and also individual tactics) known to man. The Australia A vs Brazil A team in the semifinals proved to be very interesting because the AUSA team undoubtedly had the best tactics and teamworks the whole tournament, whereas the Brazil team practically dominated with high levels of skill (they went on to win).
Waiting for an enemy to come around an entrance or a corner isn't camping. I've watched players like Drakas, Davitomon, Shorty, Undead, and many others do it many times with pwntastic results. It's not camping. Camping is hardly effective.
I usually find it disgusting when a player dies and says something along the lines of 'camper'. So what? Does the kill not count because he was camping? If you had better tactics, you might not have charged through the entrance. And then there's the dispute on whether it was camping in the first place...
I do agree that camping can be disruptive to gameplay, especially in pubs. But what can we do? I don't think kicking someone out of a server can be justified because they were camping. I've been killed by campers many times in pubs too, but that's really my own problem. There's no need to try and solve it by kicking someone out. Just go around another path and get rid of the camper.
Then there are maps that have "sniper fortresses", or havens for campers. It's those maps where not being in the camping spot puts you in dramatically inferior position. Well...Why play on this map, if it's that big of a problem? Most mappers design their maps with some intention to prevent camping (except for those funky fun maps).
Anyway, that's my two cents. It's really not that big of a deal to me.