CAMP (good or bad)
#19
There's a difference between camp and tactics.

Join a random pub if you want to see camping.
Watch ACWC demos of the Australian A team if you want to see tactics.

http://acwc.woop.us/2010/matches#m17

If you watch how Undead, Shorty, R4zor, Carnifex, and Ruthless play, you'll see the greatest team tactics (and also individual tactics) known to man. The Australia A vs Brazil A team in the semifinals proved to be very interesting because the AUSA team undoubtedly had the best tactics and teamworks the whole tournament, whereas the Brazil team practically dominated with high levels of skill (they went on to win).

Waiting for an enemy to come around an entrance or a corner isn't camping. I've watched players like Drakas, Davitomon, Shorty, Undead, and many others do it many times with pwntastic results. It's not camping. Camping is hardly effective.

I usually find it disgusting when a player dies and says something along the lines of 'camper'. So what? Does the kill not count because he was camping? If you had better tactics, you might not have charged through the entrance. And then there's the dispute on whether it was camping in the first place...

I do agree that camping can be disruptive to gameplay, especially in pubs. But what can we do? I don't think kicking someone out of a server can be justified because they were camping. I've been killed by campers many times in pubs too, but that's really my own problem. There's no need to try and solve it by kicking someone out. Just go around another path and get rid of the camper.

Then there are maps that have "sniper fortresses", or havens for campers. It's those maps where not being in the camping spot puts you in dramatically inferior position. Well...Why play on this map, if it's that big of a problem? Most mappers design their maps with some intention to prevent camping (except for those funky fun maps).

Anyway, that's my two cents. It's really not that big of a deal to me.
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Messages In This Thread
CAMP (good or bad) - by bundle - 02 Feb 11, 04:12PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Robtics - 02 Feb 11, 04:19PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Darkbee - 02 Feb 11, 04:26PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Lantry - 02 Feb 11, 09:50PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by OpenSource - 02 Feb 11, 10:44PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by ph4ntom - 02 Feb 11, 04:44PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by SuperSniper - 02 Feb 11, 04:50PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by pakit - 02 Feb 11, 04:59PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by tempest - 02 Feb 11, 05:11PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Orynge - 02 Feb 11, 10:08PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by MykeGregory - 02 Feb 11, 05:36PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by SuperSniper - 02 Feb 11, 06:01PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Xeoncross - 02 Feb 11, 08:19PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Darkbee - 02 Feb 11, 08:44PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Xeoncross - 02 Feb 11, 11:02PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by OpenSource - 02 Feb 11, 09:03PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by CyberKlown28 - 02 Feb 11, 11:57PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by #M|A#Wolf - 03 Feb 11, 12:06AM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Syntax - 03 Feb 11, 01:50PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Xeoncross - 03 Feb 11, 06:37PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by titiPT - 03 Feb 11, 10:32PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Frogulis - 04 Feb 11, 02:15PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Nightmare - 20 Feb 11, 04:14AM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by V-Man - 20 Feb 11, 07:43AM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Nightmare - 20 Feb 11, 03:16PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by a_slow_old_man - 20 Feb 11, 03:33PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Hellspell - 20 Feb 11, 04:00PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by morkel - 20 Feb 11, 04:37PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by V-Man - 20 Feb 11, 06:03PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by MykeGregory - 20 Feb 11, 06:13PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by a_slow_old_man - 20 Feb 11, 06:40PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by CharlyMurphie - 20 Feb 11, 06:58PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Josiah - 20 Feb 11, 07:09PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Lantry - 20 Feb 11, 07:41PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Josiah - 20 Feb 11, 09:53PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Ronald_Reagan - 20 Feb 11, 08:51PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by titiPT - 20 Feb 11, 09:08PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Nightmare - 20 Feb 11, 11:57PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by MykeGregory - 20 Feb 11, 10:05PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Lantry - 20 Feb 11, 10:08PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Xeoncross - 20 Feb 11, 11:19PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by kleinkariert - 21 Feb 11, 12:21AM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Stranz - 21 Feb 11, 02:53AM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Duckett - 21 Feb 11, 02:58AM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by V-Man - 21 Feb 11, 06:46AM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Nightmare - 21 Feb 11, 03:43AM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Ronald_Reagan - 21 Feb 11, 03:55AM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Polusive - 24 Mar 11, 10:59AM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Frogulis - 24 Mar 11, 11:17AM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Mikey - 24 Mar 11, 04:02PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Andrez - 24 Mar 11, 04:05PM
RE: CAMP (good or bad) - by Mr.Floppy - 24 Mar 11, 06:39PM