05 Jan 11, 03:40AM
ok... I should not reply, but I think this is an old issue, and old issues deserve some explanation.
Many "smart/proficient" guys say a lot of _things_ about what is possible and what is not possible. (NOTE, I have a deep respect for you, Zarj.... I am not attacking you here, but your "religious" position).
A perfect ideal system is really impossible (the definition of "perfect" lies in the philosophy itself).
Anyway, a real "artificer" is able to "work" with the tools he has, and the limitations it is imposed to him. If the limitations are high, it does not necessarily mean the "work" is impossible, or its result are not useful.
(You can substitute "artificer" for scientist or programmer, in the previous line. In special, science is developed adiabatically, under the never ending limitations the research(ers) are subjected. But it still moves.)
You do not need to create something perfect (our current anticheats are far from perfection, and any server owner can compile his own server without it). But it still has its utility (to the sadness of the haters and the "geniuses"). A real perfect anticheat system must probably is really impossible. But it does not forbid anyone to try to make something in these lines.
Also, I saw some strange statements (to not say wrong) in the NELL logs, like "scientistsand_engineers is a profession 177 12-dec-2010 100.0". But it does not mean it is not work, or it is not producing useful knowledge, or it cannot be used to create even better and more efficient learning machines.
Seriously... I am not a programmer, but I do not believe it is impossible to create something small that stochastically learns some phrases based in a pre-defined vocabulary. There is a tv presenter in brazil that talks for 4 hours in the sunday, and his vocabulary is made by only 100 words.
Many "smart/proficient" guys say a lot of _things_ about what is possible and what is not possible. (NOTE, I have a deep respect for you, Zarj.... I am not attacking you here, but your "religious" position).
A perfect ideal system is really impossible (the definition of "perfect" lies in the philosophy itself).
Anyway, a real "artificer" is able to "work" with the tools he has, and the limitations it is imposed to him. If the limitations are high, it does not necessarily mean the "work" is impossible, or its result are not useful.
(You can substitute "artificer" for scientist or programmer, in the previous line. In special, science is developed adiabatically, under the never ending limitations the research(ers) are subjected. But it still moves.)
You do not need to create something perfect (our current anticheats are far from perfection, and any server owner can compile his own server without it). But it still has its utility (to the sadness of the haters and the "geniuses"). A real perfect anticheat system must probably is really impossible. But it does not forbid anyone to try to make something in these lines.
Also, I saw some strange statements (to not say wrong) in the NELL logs, like "scientistsand_engineers is a profession 177 12-dec-2010 100.0". But it does not mean it is not work, or it is not producing useful knowledge, or it cannot be used to create even better and more efficient learning machines.
Seriously... I am not a programmer, but I do not believe it is impossible to create something small that stochastically learns some phrases based in a pre-defined vocabulary. There is a tv presenter in brazil that talks for 4 hours in the sunday, and his vocabulary is made by only 100 words.