So, that's it then, apparently.
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(26 May 15, 11:11AM)stef Wrote: You are the last senior team member around and you are the sole administrator of the forum. It is your responsibility.
I feel left out! I administrator before him, and team member way before him.

(26 May 15, 11:11AM)stef Wrote: even cleaner

Side note, has anyone heard from him? Curious how he is doing.

(26 May 15, 11:11AM)stef Wrote: Did you talk with anyone from the dev team, if you are making the right decision? If you are making the decision on your own, because it's your forum, then you can't blame other people for it. Grow a spine.
I agree with XRD, half of this game is community and some actions have alienated much of the community.

(26 May 15, 11:11AM)stef Wrote: you ran away and avoided IRC for an unprecedented three days. You knew very well, that I wanted to talk. You didn't want to.
Yeah, that whole pesky working long work days. It's wonderful having to work hard to get money, much of which goes to pay for these very forums.

(26 May 15, 11:11AM)stef Wrote: You made me fair game for the forum mob. Not the other way round. I told you, that I needed the forum and what I needed it for and why. I told you, that I need your support. You own the forum.
I'll actually side with you. The dev team could've sided with you much earlier and made this whole shitfest not happen. From the start I could see where this was going. I knew your moderation techniques were unprecedented on these forums and were bound to gain a negative reaction. When this happens, the moderator will get attacked. There are some things you can do to limit the attacks on you and make the cycle of negativity stop. Its a skill you can learn with warning and banning Undead over and over again.

I was too scared to approach you because I didn't want to dissuade you from participating in the development of the game. I didn't want to intervene because I knew it could've looked like I was attacking you, and I didn't know how to approach the issue. If the dev team early on backed you up and helped kill the negative cycle then we could've prevented this shitfest from festering.

(26 May 15, 11:11AM)stef Wrote: Btw, grenadier made a nice point. We ban cheaters all the time from the forum. Not warn. Ban. None of them ever cheated on the forum.
This is because we consider cheaters as people we don't want in our game at all. We will ban on the MS, the forums, and IRC (sometimes), for the duration of their ban. We don't want cheaters anywhere in our community as they are such a big problem and ruin the game in such a big way.

(26 May 15, 12:49PM)Luc@s Wrote: @xrd: told you; but you and RR look like they decided who they wanted to keep around and who they wanted to get rid of.
Yeah, say it in a black and white sort of way.
I really want stef to stay. He is one of the best devs to come around into AC. He has done great things for the game, and I've notice him sort of mentor other people who want to contribute. The main problem is when it comes to his moderation. There is set rules for moderation (see in the mod forums), and they weren't really followed. Being unfamiliar with the current community and how it progressed I think he had expectations of the forum community that couldn't have been met.



Anyways, stef:
I wish you the best of luck in your future ventures. You mentioned that AC is just a hobby for you, and I totally understand that. My main involvement with AC is in IRC and my clan's forums. My main hobbies have shifted, I now work on other personal projects rather than AC. Heading AC development is a giant commitment to make, and you did a valiant job of doing it. I understand why you would want to leave. Much of the community is sort of a sweet toxic. Most people here are good people, its just that when put together its horrific. Marti is fun to hang around, Vanquish is a great person to talk to and has wonderful insights. Undead has some of the most well thought out theses about, and its just the way it is. If sort through it, you will find these things. I guess you never found your group of people that kept you interested. For me, the only reason why I'm still around is my clan. I (but really 'we') accumulated a set of personalities I found entertaining and worked together well.

So have a good one. By the way, I've never undervalued your contributions to the game, even before you returned to the dev team. When I researched the history of AC awhile back I recognized your contributions and how they positively affected AC.
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Messages In This Thread
So, that's it then, apparently. - by stef - 24 May 15, 09:48PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Harps - 24 May 15, 09:57PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Marti - 24 May 15, 11:11PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by 1Cap - 25 May 15, 01:53AM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Marti - 25 May 15, 11:57AM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by stef - 25 May 15, 05:02PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Harps - 25 May 15, 10:15PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by stef - 25 May 15, 11:28PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by stef - 25 May 15, 07:22PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by stef - 25 May 15, 08:21PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Alien - 25 May 15, 08:26PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Marti - 25 May 15, 09:45PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Harps - 25 May 15, 09:49PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Marti - 25 May 15, 10:10PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by stef - 25 May 15, 10:36PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Marti - 25 May 15, 10:41PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by 1Cap - 25 May 15, 10:47PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Alien - 25 May 15, 11:05PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Marti - 25 May 15, 11:10PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Cemer - 25 May 15, 11:54PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by stef - 26 May 15, 11:11AM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Cemer - 26 May 15, 12:15PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Luc@s - 26 May 15, 12:49PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by stef - 26 May 15, 01:27PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Alien - 26 May 15, 04:12PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Cemer - 26 May 15, 04:36PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by 1Cap - 26 May 15, 07:27PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Luc@s - 26 May 15, 07:30PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Luc@s - 26 May 15, 07:37PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Luc@s - 26 May 15, 07:43PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Alien - 26 May 15, 08:05PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Ronald_Reagan - 26 May 15, 08:51PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by SKB - 26 May 15, 10:02PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by stef - 27 May 15, 01:40PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Cemer - 27 May 15, 01:52PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Harps - 27 May 15, 02:11PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Luc@s - 27 May 15, 06:21PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Luc@s - 27 May 15, 07:04PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by 1Cap - 27 May 15, 08:28PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Cemer - 27 May 15, 08:58PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Halte - 27 May 15, 11:37PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Marti - 27 May 15, 11:41PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Halte - 27 May 15, 11:51PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by stef - 28 May 15, 12:03AM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Cemer - 29 May 15, 12:36AM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Cemer - 29 May 15, 02:58AM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Cemer - 29 May 15, 03:53PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Luc@s - 29 May 15, 11:12AM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Luc@s - 29 May 15, 11:39AM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Alien - 29 May 15, 01:20PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by 1Cap - 29 May 15, 01:55PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Marti - 29 May 15, 04:04PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Luc@s - 29 May 15, 06:17PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Marti - 29 May 15, 06:25PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by al3rt - 30 May 15, 08:32PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Luc@s - 30 May 15, 08:44PM
RE: So, that's it then, apparently. - by Luc@s - 30 May 15, 09:36PM