(08 May 15, 11:58AM)stef Wrote: At least, this poll will yield a nice list of people who think, that censorship is ok "if the mob demands it" :)Your mind is confused. Censorship is related to controlling communication (for instance, on a forum, closing a thread where someone expresses opinion you dislike).
This is not censorship. Actually, it is participation.
(08 May 15, 11:48AM)Undead Wrote:I agree with you. Talking does something, if people is committed to listen.(07 May 15, 12:27PM)ketar Wrote:nobody "tried" lol. its always ultimately up to XRD, or whoever else has run the master-server in the past, to make the decision. i am only concerned because when you start deciding things through mob rule it sets a terrible precedent, and no other issue of admin abuse will ever get resolved other than one as obvious as the case on PERROS' servers. i think one of the key issues here is that people don't really care about admin abuse unless it personally affects them.(07 May 15, 11:34AM)Undead Wrote: mob rule never works, just discuss reasons for and against and make a qualitative decisionwe tried
(07 May 15, 10:50PM)X-Ray_Dog Wrote: I started this thread because simply talking about it isn't doing anything anymore.talking about it does do something, you just don't want to be personally held responsible by making a decision with respect to the discussion, either because it isn't within your capability or you're scared of angering the mob, or both. if you ever need someone to make tough decisions, then you know where to find me.
I tried to make a talk. And I did not start it because it affected me personally.
I propose this once again: we could also ask the aCKa server owners to remove all the ban and - for the future - use the admin thing fairly. The goal is not kicking them out: not my goal at least. It is respecting the public service offered by MS and keeping the servers public.