"flamewar" is the global term used whenever people talk a bit too much criticism and tell what they think in a honest & direct way; it's also an approximate good reason to close a thread...imo
Sauer's different from AC, yep. Even tho Lucas pointed some of its "bad points", lots of people find it much more interesting than AC right now (I insist on the "right now", because AC is not what it used to be a year ago)
Hmm so Lucas, you think developers do not develop the game for those who play it? The game was created to be played, devs develop it to make it better and more successful, the more people play it, the more successful it is. Thus, we can say that the devs develop the game in order to make the players enjoy it and stick to it.
Some people suggested or even lead projects to make AC better. As for examples, i will start with you, Lucas with the server-list ; the pro-mod made by Z3R0, Nightmare & RR; the EyeofAC by GDM, the idea of a half-time switch by Larry, some scripts made by 888 aswell as things said in the "Ideas" thread.
All of those were made by people outside of the dev team, personally, by themselves, and i believe those people would appreciate to have the recognition that their work gets officially added to the AC package.
Things like ladders & ACWC could also get officially related to AC, it would make it feel less independant and could only bring positive things to AC... such as a united & active community.
And finally Lucas, when I use the term "devs", i don't especially mean YOU, even if you're included into that group; you guys are all different. I, personally, do like you as a dev, for your ideas, your activity and your presence & contribution to AC. However I disagree with some other devs, and I won't go further otherwise my post might turn out to be a flamepost again :x
EDIT : OpenSource, I do agree that some people in the community go too far in criticism and "war against devs", and maybe you would consider i'm one of them (which I wouldn't). As a consequence, devs became less opened to criticism & to remarks towards their work.
I'm not saying the community is perfect, but some elements among the community are willing to help and it seems the devs (or at least some of them) are reluctant to changing their way of working & relinquish some of their responsabilities & massive work for some (unknown?) reasons.
Lucas said they were open to help, yes, but they select and deny whatever they like/want and do not always include the community's opinion into it.
You can tell me they're right because they're devs and they decide how to lead the AC project, sure, but then don't be surprised if the community whines about the late release & not being involved enough.
(23 Apr 13, 01:57AM)Nightmare Wrote: Stayed up past midnight, took a few hours to put that thread together and had at least two devs say it was fine in the past and afterwards.
Sauer's different from AC, yep. Even tho Lucas pointed some of its "bad points", lots of people find it much more interesting than AC right now (I insist on the "right now", because AC is not what it used to be a year ago)
Hmm so Lucas, you think developers do not develop the game for those who play it? The game was created to be played, devs develop it to make it better and more successful, the more people play it, the more successful it is. Thus, we can say that the devs develop the game in order to make the players enjoy it and stick to it.
Some people suggested or even lead projects to make AC better. As for examples, i will start with you, Lucas with the server-list ; the pro-mod made by Z3R0, Nightmare & RR; the EyeofAC by GDM, the idea of a half-time switch by Larry, some scripts made by 888 aswell as things said in the "Ideas" thread.
All of those were made by people outside of the dev team, personally, by themselves, and i believe those people would appreciate to have the recognition that their work gets officially added to the AC package.
Things like ladders & ACWC could also get officially related to AC, it would make it feel less independant and could only bring positive things to AC... such as a united & active community.
And finally Lucas, when I use the term "devs", i don't especially mean YOU, even if you're included into that group; you guys are all different. I, personally, do like you as a dev, for your ideas, your activity and your presence & contribution to AC. However I disagree with some other devs, and I won't go further otherwise my post might turn out to be a flamepost again :x
EDIT : OpenSource, I do agree that some people in the community go too far in criticism and "war against devs", and maybe you would consider i'm one of them (which I wouldn't). As a consequence, devs became less opened to criticism & to remarks towards their work.
I'm not saying the community is perfect, but some elements among the community are willing to help and it seems the devs (or at least some of them) are reluctant to changing their way of working & relinquish some of their responsabilities & massive work for some (unknown?) reasons.
Lucas said they were open to help, yes, but they select and deny whatever they like/want and do not always include the community's opinion into it.
You can tell me they're right because they're devs and they decide how to lead the AC project, sure, but then don't be surprised if the community whines about the late release & not being involved enough.