22 Dec 12, 06:05AM
it's not even a partisan issue, or shouldn't be.
claiming that advocating gun rights condemns people is also seriously flawed logic.
with proper maintenance and control it can all be fine. Nobody says it is perfect, but to a certain degree it is protecting a constitutional right. Larry pointed out it seems to be a libertarian idea for little gain and a lot of loss and I do agree with him, however the answer is certainly not berating anybody who thinks differently.
Some of my music education friends responded with (loosely paraphrased) "i may not like guns, or want them anywhere near schools, but education seems to be the issue to not letting anybody slip through the cracks." Maybe guns are the tools of atrocities (well fuck it, they certainly are) but that doesn't imply a ban on all tools. A man does not lose a finger to a saw and then ban everyone from using a saw. Very awful loose metaphor that doesn't come close to highlighting the graphic terribleness of the gun situation, but it is a similar argument.
Also an interesting point a lawyer friend made that I'd like many americans to consider (and others), is why death and destruction in the context of war is not treated the same way as a school massacre. Many more women, children, and men have died in war, but I have yet to hear anybody here advocate the banning use of guns/drones/whatever by the military. Obviously there are anti-war sentiments, but then there is the issue of standing armies being armed.
What are your thoughts? I am just pointing out conflicting information, I myself would love to see the banning of guns for terrible purpose, but I believe people have a right to defend, hunt, and amuse themselves. Being a farm boy at heart, ive seen guns used in all three situations quite safely, but I also recognize there is much issue. Just food for thought.
claiming that advocating gun rights condemns people is also seriously flawed logic.
with proper maintenance and control it can all be fine. Nobody says it is perfect, but to a certain degree it is protecting a constitutional right. Larry pointed out it seems to be a libertarian idea for little gain and a lot of loss and I do agree with him, however the answer is certainly not berating anybody who thinks differently.
Some of my music education friends responded with (loosely paraphrased) "i may not like guns, or want them anywhere near schools, but education seems to be the issue to not letting anybody slip through the cracks." Maybe guns are the tools of atrocities (well fuck it, they certainly are) but that doesn't imply a ban on all tools. A man does not lose a finger to a saw and then ban everyone from using a saw. Very awful loose metaphor that doesn't come close to highlighting the graphic terribleness of the gun situation, but it is a similar argument.
Also an interesting point a lawyer friend made that I'd like many americans to consider (and others), is why death and destruction in the context of war is not treated the same way as a school massacre. Many more women, children, and men have died in war, but I have yet to hear anybody here advocate the banning use of guns/drones/whatever by the military. Obviously there are anti-war sentiments, but then there is the issue of standing armies being armed.
What are your thoughts? I am just pointing out conflicting information, I myself would love to see the banning of guns for terrible purpose, but I believe people have a right to defend, hunt, and amuse themselves. Being a farm boy at heart, ive seen guns used in all three situations quite safely, but I also recognize there is much issue. Just food for thought.