08 Jul 12, 06:17PM
(This post was last modified: 08 Jul 12, 06:22PM by Liz-Taylor.)
edit-- sorry, my simple question turned into a rant...
THE BIG QUESTION for server-running veterans,
Should I "allow" camping or not?
/mutters... /starts ranting...
Really, is this something I need to decide? I mean I hate campers, too. There is nothing worse than getting fragged by a talentless dork when he is camped-hard-scoped-crouched-shielded-around-blind-corner. I hate that. And the only way to stop camping on my server (on an ongoing manner) is to allow client vote-kicking. And then my server becomes degenerates into a vote-kicking war. The client vote-kicking solution is worse than the original camping problem. And, I kind of feel bad for the genuine noob campers. That is just a sign of player who sucks, and knows it. I don't think kicking the noobs is really appropriate either.
I mean I HATE vote-abusers infinitely more than the campers. I regularly get voted off other servers for "camping"...or even "tkilling"... while I am playing at my best (even if I charge every round and have not tkilled once). Then repeatedly, I might get kicked for "hacking" or "sucks pygmy goat cock" ,etc, etc, etc. Great, I just got kicked out of a server for winning (the pygmy goat reason might make me smile, though).
At the start of a round... I charge. I'm certainly not a really great player, but I am a good player. Charging is just more fun for me. But below are some examples that still happen to me on other servers (with client vote-kicking enabled).
--Sometimes I am briefly afk (taking a drink, eating, smoking) and I start playing a few seconds late in a round... I get kicked for "camping", when I shoot somebody coming out of the base.
--If I have door-block-noob-teammates prohibiting me from charging out of base? ... I get kicked for camping...
--I circle the whole desert map, and make a kill (from behind) back in my original base?... I get kicked for camping...
I have no idea how many times I have been vote-kicked for "camping" when I am charging at the start of every single round (and winning the game). I really don't want that garbage to happen on my server. I don't want that to happen to any other player. That plain sucks. I'd rather have a server where players (primarily for the sake of really good players) just cannot be vote-kicked at all. I see lots of other good players getting kicked for BS reasons, the most common reason "camping". I see so many false "hacking" accusations, too. UGH! That's what I was thinking when I set up the vote-kicking permission string. So, I just denied kicking permission for clients.
I'll try to blacklist the hackers, intentional-tkillers, and the real abusers. The players will have to deal with the lessor evil of campers.
But I really don't know... That's just what I think... Is this a bad approach? Am I wrong?
I really do want my server to be a server popular with GOOD players. After all... Good Players=Fun Server. I just had a situation when I joined my server this morning. There were a couple of really good players (the kind that i definitely want to play on my server with me, regularly) wanting me to kick some campers. The campers were good enough to be very annoying, and were constantly camping. The good players were still kicking the campers' asses, though.
I did NOT kick the campers. The annoying campers stayed. The good players left.
crap...epic server host fail...
Opinions?Comments?Suggestions?
THE BIG QUESTION for server-running veterans,
Should I "allow" camping or not?
/mutters... /starts ranting...
Really, is this something I need to decide? I mean I hate campers, too. There is nothing worse than getting fragged by a talentless dork when he is camped-hard-scoped-crouched-shielded-around-blind-corner. I hate that. And the only way to stop camping on my server (on an ongoing manner) is to allow client vote-kicking. And then my server becomes degenerates into a vote-kicking war. The client vote-kicking solution is worse than the original camping problem. And, I kind of feel bad for the genuine noob campers. That is just a sign of player who sucks, and knows it. I don't think kicking the noobs is really appropriate either.
I mean I HATE vote-abusers infinitely more than the campers. I regularly get voted off other servers for "camping"...or even "tkilling"... while I am playing at my best (even if I charge every round and have not tkilled once). Then repeatedly, I might get kicked for "hacking" or "sucks pygmy goat cock" ,etc, etc, etc. Great, I just got kicked out of a server for winning (the pygmy goat reason might make me smile, though).
At the start of a round... I charge. I'm certainly not a really great player, but I am a good player. Charging is just more fun for me. But below are some examples that still happen to me on other servers (with client vote-kicking enabled).
--Sometimes I am briefly afk (taking a drink, eating, smoking) and I start playing a few seconds late in a round... I get kicked for "camping", when I shoot somebody coming out of the base.
--If I have door-block-noob-teammates prohibiting me from charging out of base? ... I get kicked for camping...
--I circle the whole desert map, and make a kill (from behind) back in my original base?... I get kicked for camping...
I have no idea how many times I have been vote-kicked for "camping" when I am charging at the start of every single round (and winning the game). I really don't want that garbage to happen on my server. I don't want that to happen to any other player. That plain sucks. I'd rather have a server where players (primarily for the sake of really good players) just cannot be vote-kicked at all. I see lots of other good players getting kicked for BS reasons, the most common reason "camping". I see so many false "hacking" accusations, too. UGH! That's what I was thinking when I set up the vote-kicking permission string. So, I just denied kicking permission for clients.
I'll try to blacklist the hackers, intentional-tkillers, and the real abusers. The players will have to deal with the lessor evil of campers.
But I really don't know... That's just what I think... Is this a bad approach? Am I wrong?
I really do want my server to be a server popular with GOOD players. After all... Good Players=Fun Server. I just had a situation when I joined my server this morning. There were a couple of really good players (the kind that i definitely want to play on my server with me, regularly) wanting me to kick some campers. The campers were good enough to be very annoying, and were constantly camping. The good players were still kicking the campers' asses, though.
I did NOT kick the campers. The annoying campers stayed. The good players left.
crap...epic server host fail...
Opinions?Comments?Suggestions?