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Let me balance this game
#31
Sniper is OP, a skilled sniper can outfrag anyone. and even more so on inters. But snipers love their OP weapon, they'll ~never vote for a re balance of it.
Snipers have headshots, fastest combo (on par with akimbo ffs), gibs for points and no spread at all.

SMG is better than the AR, due to several factors in this version. It can hold it's own in an inter and wreaks havoc in a pub.
SMG has a lot of bullets, so you can shoot and shoot and shoot, and spend less time reloading. Due to it's speed, if you miss a bullet, you can still come out ahead most times, while if you miss a bullet with the AR you're in trouble. The only bad thing about it is the spread on longer ranges...if maps were encouraged to have long ranges, and they aren't. You can also rifle sprint with the smg to an extent. SMG is a weapon that even noobs can utilize well.

AR is okay, but bit worse than smg, tho it is marginally better in inters than pubs.
AR suffers a bit in pubs, with a lot of players around, as you need to reload a lot, while you can take your time on inters, as you'll spend more time out of combat than in it. It can be good on longer ranges, but that's just a few spots on some maps and depot. Rifle sprinting is a plus.

Shotgun is only good in pubs, it's a weapon where you need to get up close and personal most of the time, and pubs offer this in large amounts, a 2v2 inter will not let you play good shotgun.
Shotgun has gibs, that's good for points, and you can shoot it at medium range with some good results. Comboing it with a pistol has some potential, but I rarely saw anyone doing it.

Carbine is a joke, it has almost nothing going for it. It's actually faster to frag a 100/100 opponent with a pistol than the carbine. No gibs, no headshot, no nothing except long ranges, and those aren't plentiful on official maps. You can kill steal on pubs, and it can do that pretty well on douze and arena maps.

This is just an opinion, and people play differently, some play defense, some rush, some snipe etc. and this modifies the relative value of the weapon in question. Let's also not forget that some maps are better suited to some weapons.

As for weapon balance, it's my opinion that the sniper is OP, AR slightly UP and carbine sucks major balls. Soloing pistol is maybe a joke, but the pistol has the same damage as the AR, which makes it heavily OP. Removing helmets on inters is just lame, better to have longer spawn times for them, else mappers might just place more armors.
As a last note akimbo is currently under powered, I saw and fragged akimbo wielding players with the SMG and sniper, Their clip is too small, and the damage should be a tad more serious. If they miss a few bullets, they're in serious trouble against a skilled player.
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Let me balance this game - by Roflcopter - 22 Jun 14, 04:05AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by DrauL - 22 Jun 14, 04:10AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Roflcopter - 22 Jun 14, 04:15AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by DrauL - 22 Jun 14, 06:24AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Orynge - 22 Jun 14, 07:01AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by *H1TM4N* - 22 Jun 14, 05:19AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by 1Cap - 22 Jun 14, 05:46AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Luc@s - 22 Jun 14, 09:45AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Roflcopter - 22 Jun 14, 12:38PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Roflcopter - 22 Jun 14, 06:27AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by DrauL - 22 Jun 14, 08:37AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Roflcopter - 28 Jun 14, 11:56PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by MykeGregory - 22 Jun 14, 10:02AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Vanquish - 22 Jun 14, 11:44AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by DrauL - 22 Jun 14, 11:54AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Vanquish - 22 Jun 14, 12:08PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by titiPT - 22 Jun 14, 12:24PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by DrauL - 22 Jun 14, 12:42PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Roflcopter - 22 Jun 14, 12:51PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by macm - 22 Jun 14, 03:03PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Waffles - 22 Jun 14, 04:37PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 22 Jun 14, 06:35PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Roflcopter - 22 Jun 14, 07:27PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Orynge - 29 Jun 14, 08:36AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by killerjoe - 30 Jun 14, 10:38AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by MykeGregory - 22 Jun 14, 07:40PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Cemer - 22 Jun 14, 07:54PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Vanquish - 22 Jun 14, 07:57PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by 1Cap - 22 Jun 14, 08:03PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Jason - 22 Jun 14, 08:12PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Marti - 22 Jun 14, 08:29PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Vanquish - 22 Jun 14, 08:37PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by RKTnoob - 22 Jun 14, 08:41PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 22 Jun 14, 08:48PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Orynge - 23 Jun 14, 02:25PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by RKTnoob - 23 Jun 14, 03:04PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ofir640 - 24 Jun 14, 03:32AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by *H1TM4N* - 24 Jun 14, 05:41AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by 1Cap - 23 Jun 14, 07:53PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Jason - 23 Jun 14, 10:21PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by PhaNtom - 23 Jun 14, 10:36PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Waffles - 24 Jun 14, 06:34AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by RKTnoob - 24 Jun 14, 08:05AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ofir640 - 24 Jun 14, 08:00PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Luc@s - 28 Jun 14, 07:21AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 28 Jun 14, 02:27PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Roflcopter - 28 Jun 14, 03:08PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by DES|Anderson - 28 Jun 14, 10:19AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Foo - 28 Jun 14, 02:52PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by *H1TM4N* - 28 Jun 14, 08:31PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Vanquish - 28 Jun 14, 02:51PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Nightmare - 28 Jun 14, 04:20PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Honor - 28 Jun 14, 04:55PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 28 Jun 14, 05:30PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Honor - 28 Jun 14, 07:02PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Nightmare - 28 Jun 14, 05:56PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 29 Jun 14, 01:36AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by stef - 29 Jun 14, 02:17AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by DamDam - 29 Jun 14, 03:23AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Vanquish - 29 Jun 14, 03:26AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 29 Jun 14, 12:13PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by DrauL - 29 Jun 14, 03:46AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Vanquish - 29 Jun 14, 03:56AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by jamz - 29 Jun 14, 10:25AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by 1Cap - 29 Jun 14, 04:54AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by TheNihilanth - 29 Jun 14, 07:18AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by macm - 29 Jun 14, 07:51PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by RKTnoob - 29 Jun 14, 11:08AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Vanquish - 29 Jun 14, 11:33AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by 1Cap - 29 Jun 14, 11:56AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by RKTnoob - 29 Jun 14, 12:11PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Robtics - 29 Jun 14, 12:21PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Hosta - 29 Jun 14, 12:48PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 29 Jun 14, 01:29PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by DamDam - 29 Jun 14, 01:33PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Hosta - 29 Jun 14, 01:44PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 29 Jun 14, 02:19PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by al3rt - 29 Jun 14, 02:21PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Vanquish - 29 Jun 14, 02:42PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 29 Jun 14, 03:57PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Marti - 29 Jun 14, 04:09PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Robtics - 29 Jun 14, 04:30PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by DamDam - 29 Jun 14, 05:07PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 29 Jun 14, 06:07PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Vanquish - 29 Jun 14, 06:36PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 29 Jun 14, 06:42PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by DamDam - 29 Jun 14, 07:04PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Vanquish - 29 Jun 14, 07:06PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 29 Jun 14, 07:33PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Roflcopter - 29 Jun 14, 08:13PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Cemer - 30 Jun 14, 03:23AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by PhaNtom - 29 Jun 14, 07:44PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by RKTnoob - 29 Jun 14, 09:28PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Orynge - 29 Jun 14, 11:42PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Mystered - 30 Jun 14, 02:19AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by +f0r3v3r+ - 30 Jun 14, 03:01AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Sanzo'' - 30 Jun 14, 08:50AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Waffles - 30 Jun 14, 10:33AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 30 Jun 14, 01:58PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Waffles - 30 Jun 14, 10:53AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Sanzo'' - 30 Jun 14, 10:57AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Elite - 30 Jun 14, 01:54PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Nightmare - 30 Jun 14, 01:55PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Waffles - 30 Jun 14, 04:31PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 30 Jun 14, 05:11PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Waffles - 30 Jun 14, 07:30PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by stef - 30 Jun 14, 08:36PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Roflcopter - 01 Jul 14, 12:10AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Marti - 01 Jul 14, 01:54AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by stef - 01 Jul 14, 09:06AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by DES|Anderson - 03 Jul 14, 08:08AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 03 Jul 14, 04:09PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Mr.OpTic - 03 Jul 14, 03:18PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Robtics - 03 Jul 14, 03:49PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Cemer - 03 Jul 14, 09:18PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by EndGame - 04 Jul 14, 04:06AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Syntax - 23 Jul 14, 06:44AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Roflcopter - 23 Jul 14, 07:26AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by MorganKell - 29 Jul 14, 05:58PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by morshu9001 - 12 Aug 14, 10:41PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Marti - 12 Aug 14, 10:44PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by morshu9001 - 13 Aug 14, 10:09PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Vanquish - 13 Aug 14, 12:40AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 13 Aug 14, 01:17AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Marti - 13 Aug 14, 10:42AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 13 Aug 14, 12:34PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Cemer - 13 Aug 14, 04:19PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Waffles - 13 Aug 14, 11:37PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 14 Aug 14, 01:23AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by morshu9001 - 18 Aug 14, 07:07AM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Cemer - 18 Aug 14, 04:59PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 18 Aug 14, 05:05PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Cemer - 18 Aug 14, 05:10PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by morshu9001 - 18 Aug 14, 06:17PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Waffles - 14 Aug 14, 01:32PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 18 Aug 14, 12:44PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 18 Aug 14, 05:16PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Luc@s - 18 Aug 14, 07:26PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 18 Aug 14, 07:31PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Million - 18 Aug 14, 07:56PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by Vanquish - 18 Aug 14, 05:46PM
RE: Let me balance this game - by ExodusS - 18 Aug 14, 08:24PM