31 Dec 14, 05:19PM
ftr undead i wasnt commenting about you finding it ridiculous, more that you stated only germany has explicit laws against nazi references. i know you always do your research but you shouldve done slightly more research about this.
some quote i found about someone talking about this subject:
"We agree that freedom of speech and right for self-expression are ones of the rights each and every democracy should promote, but what the oppositions fails to understand that these rights are not unlimited. The case with the right for self defense is quite similar – the value of life is the most important right every person should have, but nevertheless we limit the right to self defense to certain extent, because we believe that these rights should be perceived as how the whole society sees them, not how every individual would like to see it in order for people not abusing these rights. That’s why when someone hits a person with a fist, the victim can’t respond the attacker with a gun under the right for self defense.
Both sides were arguing whether the society is ready to face Nazi symbols and whether it would be beneficial for people who faced the actions of these regimes in real life to be exposed to them. The majority sees these symbols to be representing something unpleasant either it’s war, illegal occupation or anti Jew policy. Important is how society overall perceives these symbols, not what meaning a single individual wanted to put in it. And to clarify, both sides also agree today that symbols have a meaning, mentioned in the argument how allowance of symbols would deal with extremist groups."
personally i dont get offended by the name Hitler, i just know others can get offended by it, and thats why i see no problem with having this server removed. same goes for names as Pinochet, Franco etc.
some quote i found about someone talking about this subject:
"We agree that freedom of speech and right for self-expression are ones of the rights each and every democracy should promote, but what the oppositions fails to understand that these rights are not unlimited. The case with the right for self defense is quite similar – the value of life is the most important right every person should have, but nevertheless we limit the right to self defense to certain extent, because we believe that these rights should be perceived as how the whole society sees them, not how every individual would like to see it in order for people not abusing these rights. That’s why when someone hits a person with a fist, the victim can’t respond the attacker with a gun under the right for self defense.
Both sides were arguing whether the society is ready to face Nazi symbols and whether it would be beneficial for people who faced the actions of these regimes in real life to be exposed to them. The majority sees these symbols to be representing something unpleasant either it’s war, illegal occupation or anti Jew policy. Important is how society overall perceives these symbols, not what meaning a single individual wanted to put in it. And to clarify, both sides also agree today that symbols have a meaning, mentioned in the argument how allowance of symbols would deal with extremist groups."
personally i dont get offended by the name Hitler, i just know others can get offended by it, and thats why i see no problem with having this server removed. same goes for names as Pinochet, Franco etc.