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|FmC|Aqua_3m · 14 Jul 10, 10:07PM

Is there a place i can find this as a download to try it? or is it not out yet...? ( i know it is still being dev.)

ärkefiende · 14 Jul 10, 10:17PM

For Windows: http://forum.cubers.net/thread-166.html
For Linux: http://forum.cubers.net/thread-178.html

Alternative: http://actiongame.svn.sourceforge.net/vi.../trunk/ac/

Orynge · 15 Jul 10, 12:25AM

(14 Jul 10 05:18PM)Calinou Wrote: The SMG was too fast, and it's now more fast.. I would prefer an accelerated shotgun rather..

To me it feels as if the range and/or damage on the SMG has been lowered.

Gibstick · 15 Jul 10, 01:10AM

SMG damage has been lowered, it takes 8 shots to kill. Range is the same (range is same for all weapons). Recoil was tweaked so if you hold it down it kicks up a lot but if you burst fire there's almost none.

makkE · (This post was last modified: 15 Jul 10 12:03PM by makkE.)

Range is not the same for all weapons, what makes you say that ? The effective (best) range of a weapon is determined by bullet spread and, to some extend, recoil.

The SMG has had the following changes: Damage reduced, Less recoil on the first shots of a burst (similar to AR behaviour). This extends it's range a lot. If you're good, you can burst-snipe across douze with it now. It also means, that you are being rewarded for first aiming, then shooting, even in close combat. Just spraying in the general direction once you spot an enemy will now have you at a disadvantage, since you waste those first accurate shots.

Gibstick · 15 Jul 10, 01:51PM

What I meant by range is that it's not like CoD :P
If your aim is right the bullet will go straight and hit your enemy no matter the range. But I suppose you are correct, range depends on many things.

makkE · 15 Jul 10, 02:09PM

You are wrong, gibstick, depending on the spread, the bullets will hit a bit off center, the further away the target, the more; on the following guns: Pistol, AR, SMG, unscoped sniper, Shotgun and even a tad on the carbine. That what "spread" means in AC..

Otherwise we'd have to balance 5 automatic railguns... :P

Gibstick · (This post was last modified: 15 Jul 10 02:12PM by Gibstick.)

But they still hit all the way across the map no matter what, that's what I meant by range. Effective range, meh. Speaking of railguns...
Perhaps I don't know the meaning of range.

makkE · 15 Jul 10, 02:29PM

Yes, the spread is not as large as in other games, but it's there. Turn on hitsounds and fight SMG vs AR on douze and you'll see.

The further away your opponent, the less hits, even if your crosshair is dead on all the time.

JMM · 15 Jul 10, 02:35PM

I'm pretty sure that what gibstick is saying that the bullet will go all the way to the other end of the map regardless of the gun, and each bullet will cause the same damage regardless of how far it travels.

Of course, the ranges where each weapon is effective and/or of any use is different...

#M|A#Wolf · 15 Jul 10, 07:53PM

Try this hitting a dude from across douze with a pistol 5 times in a row.

JMM · 16 Jul 10, 12:25AM

(15 Jul 10 07:53PM)|BC|Wolf Wrote: Try this hitting a dude from across douze with a pistol 5 times in a row.

Too much spread.

#M|A#Wolf · 16 Jul 10, 03:01AM

Exactly what I meant ;)

JMM · 16 Jul 10, 03:39AM

(16 Jul 10 03:01AM)|BC|Wolf Wrote: Exactly what I meant ;)

Point?

[3D][Raver] · 16 Jul 10, 05:01AM

(16 Jul 10 03:39AM)JMM Wrote:
(16 Jul 10 03:01AM)|BC|Wolf Wrote: Exactly what I meant ;)
Point?

point?

JMM · 16 Jul 10, 05:44AM

'[3D Wrote:point?

Comma?

flowtron · (This post was last modified: 16 Jul 10 04:15PM by flowtron.)

People ... . ... Focus!

Canadianspwn · 16 Jul 10, 08:01PM

question mark?

|FmC|Aqua_3m · 16 Jul 10, 11:03PM

IS there one that workes with a mac?

makkE · 16 Jul 10, 11:33PM

Open your eyes, man :)

http://forum.cubers.net/thread-60.html

Viper · 17 Jul 10, 09:18PM

(15 Jul 10 02:09PM)makkE Wrote: You are wrong, gibstick, depending on the spread, the bullets will hit a bit off center, the further away the target, the more; on the following guns: Pistol, AR, SMG, unscoped sniper, Shotgun and even a tad on the carbine. That what "spread" means in AC..

Otherwise we'd have to balance 5 automatic railguns... :P

Wow i didn't know we had wind in AC. :P Thats the best part of the weapon plz no!! :)

makkE · 17 Jul 10, 10:21PM

Unscoped sniper has spread since 0.92 or so...

Bullpup · (This post was last modified: 20 Jul 10 12:25AM by Bullpup.)

if the sniper bullet splits in two, then it can have spread.

-I know makkE 'semantics', I know. Great game all the same.

#M|A#Wolf · 21 Jul 10, 07:44PM

I have always found it so weird that if you aim somewhere with the scope then take out the scope and shoot exactly where you were aiming at without scope, it won't be the same place. Is it like you just mentioned the different spreads of using scope or not? Shouldn't it be the same?

makkE · 21 Jul 10, 08:22PM

It's not the same, for the simple reason that you'd then only need to paint a dot on your screen to have a railgun...